The great whites of the last 30 years

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  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    In no particular order

    -Wlad Klitscko
    -Vitali Klitscho
    -Gerry Cooney
    -Francesco Damiani
    -Ruslan Chagaev
    -Gerrie Coetzee
    -Tex Cobb
    -Tommy Morrison
    -Nikolay Valuev
    -Sultan Ibragimov
    -Andrew Golata
    -Oleg Maskaev
    -Francois Botha
    -Corrie Sanders


    Did I miss any?
     
  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Well ,they are white, anyway,but I don't see any greats there.More Minnows than Sharks.
     
  3. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    im not to hot on race stuff

    is ODLH classes white
     
  4. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    They are great if placed in the right context. They are the best caucasion fighters around.
     
  5. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In other words, the best white heavyweights since Jerry Quarry, who to me will always be thought of as "The Great Contender." (He had the best heavyweight resume of any non champion since 1950 in my estimation, making him far more than merely a great white hope.)

    Although my knowledge of the post 15 round era remains sketchy and tenuous at best, it looks to me like you've assembled a thoughtful and comprehensive list. The dearth of Americans is striking to me, and explains much about why boxing has become largely a niche interest.

    Perhaps some might classify Tua as "white," and a consensus about how his ethnicity is regarded could prove interesting.

    The professional wrestling racket demonstrates a preponderance of white and south Pacific oriented champions. This is what is most marketable to the widest audience. But marketability does not dictate who wins in sporting competition.

    Well sir, I shall have to contemplate what further names could be added to your list. 1979 to 2009. Kallie Knoetze knocked out Bill Sharkey and Randy Stephens in 1979, before white American Mike Koraniki knocked him out of contention at year's end. Koraniki himself had a solid career. Scott LeDoux peaked in 1979 and 1980, with his 1979 draw against Ken Norton, and his career best 1980 decision win over superb and dangerous undefeated contender Marty Monroe, the victory which propelled him into his title shot with Larry Holmes. The Frenchman had a very solid career, including noteworthy performances within the time frame you have specified, and could hardly be accused of ducking anybody.

    Check out the career record of Larry Holmes for other potential names to add on, names like Brian Nielsen perhaps. (Yes, Larry was robbed by a hometown decision in that one, but the fact remains that Nielsen is the only white heavyweight to be awarded a "W" against Holmes.)
     
  6. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    you really must be Mr.Magoo if you think those guys are great.
     
  7. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe, Hatton, Maguigan, Tyszu (part Asian), Monzon, Otke, Darius Mchouski
     
  8. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, I personally would have phrased them as the "best," and we do sometimes have to recognize the relative spirit of intent, not the literal phraseology submitted.
     
  9. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    heavyweights, heavyweights, heavyweights ( heavyweights ), heavyweights and heavyweights.
     
  10. prime

    prime BOX! Writing Champion Full Member

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    This is a listing of great white heavies, not great heavyweights.

    In this spirit, I would include Joe Bugner, who, though definitely in his prime in the '70s, still made waves through the '90s, defeating Tillis and Page and becoming the oldest man to pick up an alphabet heavyweight belt at age 49. Not too shabby.
     
  11. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Thanks Deen.:good
     
  12. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Most welcome, honorable Bloss Man!:bowdown (I learned how to come to terms with an author years ago, thanks to Mort Adler's and Charles Van Doren's classic text, "How to Read a Book." I sometimes think some of our fellow posters would do well to pick up a copy at their local used bookstore.)

    Best regards,

    Deen
     
  13. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And given what crap quality the heavyweights have been for awhile now, that would be a great incentive to look for great fighters elsewhere. Arguably, depending on how you're defining it, there hasn't been a great white heavyweight since Marciano, only a range going from average to good but not great. (Or not proven beyond a doubt to be great).
     
  14. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Doesnt say so in the title or OP
     
  15. PowerPuncher

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