Hush your mouth CJ! Eddie was still learning the game because he never witnessed the greatness of Rigo:bbb
^^Actually it does matter, and it matters greatly. You can't be considered an ATG if you only have 13 fights under your resume. Let him prove himself the next couple years, at least have 30 professional fights before we gauge how great he actually is. One of the greatest amateur fighters of all time, no doubt about it, but professionally? He has a lot of work to do. And him being 33 years old leaves a relatively small window of opportunity for him to climb up the ratings.
The best fighter pfp ever was Popeye. The most heavy handed punching heavyweight ever was Brutus. The guy with the most talent was none other than Plastic Man. No disrespect to clowns like you, but I don't respect your creation of this thread.
But he has an extensive ams background (there is no difference between pros and ams), does great pad work and is learning things at Wildcard Gym. you guys just dont get it . . . record means nothing since rigo has a style that can neutralize anyone. Y'all have to listen to Grandmaster Greenland and you might learn a thing or two about boxing:deal
I rated Rigo top 3 p4p before the Donaire win H2H. I thought Donaire fought the wrong fight, given his height, size advantage, athleticism and power he should have fought more dynamic from the outside. For some reason, Garcia thought it would be a good idea to fight him like a Margarito. I envisioned a Hearns-SRL style of match for Donaire, use his reach to box a great shorter boxer. Rigo needs to fight more often though, he beat the guy who is clearly ahead of everyone so he should just clean out. From 122-126 it kinda goes like this: Rigo Donaire . . . Everyone else.
Rigo is one hell of a fighter and dominated a great fighter in Donaire. Although I feel if Donaire had fought a different fight, he would have faired better and the fight might not had been so one sided. Once Rigo figured out that all Donaire was looking for was the one big punch, it was the beginning of the end for Nonito. That being said, calling Rigo the best of all time is too much of a stretch. He must fight better opposition and more of them. Dude has less than 15 pro fights! Do you know the level of competition he would need to face and beat in grand form to be considered one of the best let alone the best ever with that few of fights. Quiet literally he would have to beat, Salvador Sanchez, Alexis Arguello, all three Sugars, Hearns , Duran. Pepp, Marquez, Morales, Barrera Arron Pryor and Mayweather all while in their prime.
didnt you read this threadatsch. According to Greenlad, who knows everything about boxing, that there is no difference between ams and the pros; also, he has does great pad-work; and is learning a lot of things at the wildcard Gym. just sit back and learn from the master:deal some people:-(
U hav never boxed and you dont understand but everything I've said is true its not up for debate!! I know alot more than you and have fought all over the world in major tournaments learned from the best! how you hit the pads is the most important thing in training along with sparring, All the techniques you practice on the pads you use in a fight, and as far as rigo learning at wildacrd no hes not hes simply tere because he doesn't have his own gym what could those guys teach him nothing, YDKSAB nut and ur a troll!!
Unfortunately this is a troll forum, Ppl cant see past their own bias and through hype and promotion, they could never imagine that someone like MArio Kindelan could be better than mayweather when he is! but I think I've educated the trolls of ESB for now! As far as padwork its the most important thing in boxing and training it simulates a fight and no one in boxing is better on them than rigo, likewise pac was gr8 on them in 09 thats why he was soo good, but now hes lost alot of boxing skills and co ordination and is on the slide! Unfortunately I'm the only man here that knows the sport! Ah well
I may not agree with everything you say but at least you talk boxing this site was good at one time .
Honestly that's a bit ridiculous with all those "ATG" statuses. Many people seem to consider that like a something of importance and not an imaginary subjective thing. As for Rigo, he doesn't need that at all, people who follow him will always know and understand how good is he, regardless of him being considered a virtual "ATG" by some people or not. As for the guys you mentioned, Imo Rigondeaux is more skilled and a better boxer than all of them. I remember that many people were saying that the skills he displayed in the amateurs won't work in the pros and that Donaire would handle him (probably because they didn't even watch him in back in the ams or just couldn't realize how good was he). Well, they were wrong.
:deal This is the best post I have read on here! u get it I think, this mythical ATG etc is completely irrelevant it comes down to the two fighters, they're like oh Rigo needs more fights to become an all time great then we can consider him against these guys, but these guys don't releaise that rigo is as good as he'll be if anything his prime was a couple years ago his skills are far too much for anyone currently and in the past and thats what really matters in this sport!!