Mark Hunt has the greatest chin of all time, he took a high kick from cro-cop, the greatest kicker ever and he went down for an 8 count in k1 then in pride he took another high kick from cro-cop and stayed on his feet,, hes taken knees to the head from wanderlei silva and didnt even get rocked, mccall couldnt take this its just logic, i know u say " how do u know when u never seen it happen" but its weird u will understand if u watchd more kickboxing or MMA its just not meant to happen, mark hunt is just an unatural animal and his chin shouldnt even be brought up in discussions like this coz its 5 leagues above anyone thats ever lived he puts his hands down and lets opponents hit him in the face with 4oz gloves, what a guy,,, as for mccall i still dont think he has the greatest chin in boxing maybe top 5, lets see if he fights wlad.
i think marving hagler goerge chuvalo mavrovic ( u havent seen him fight enough) and mike tyson ( took danny williams 26punches to drop him and he was still concious)
He fought Prime Lewis, sparred with Tyson, fought MANY punchers. He doesn't need a fight with Wlad to prove his chin. For me, it's between McCall, Chuvalo, and p4p....McCullough.
yes thats understandable enough, u have to put hagler in there too i think, he walked right into hearns
If u base it just on that then why not having Ricardo Mayorge there instead of tyson..... Tito landed a **** ton of power pnches and the man took em,
No my analogy works just fine. but maybe not on eastsideboxing.com cause 99% of you people are a bit like creationists. They believe in their **** and dont care about facts and tested results. Re-read my previous message. remember when i talked about hunt's fight in which he was saved by the bell?...the only thing you can take away from Hunt is the fact that he rarely got hit with a deadly accurate and flush hk... but , it's almost irrelevant because if it still lands...chances of being KOed are still very high. Your argument about evidences brings me back to my previous examples. And yes , my analogy works. here's another one. if i get a gun and shoot , point blank on my temple...chances are...i'll end up dead. (or if i'm extremely lucky...maybe i'll end up blind)... I don't need to test it on myself to know what will happen. know what i mean? Same goes for a HK. if you follow muay thai competitions and if you've seen those occasions in which fighter A gets koed by fighter B via flush HK...It is extremely brutal.... it's a proven fact. Legs are more powerful than arms. and when a professional kickboxer has the ability and technic to land perfect hks...trust me , Lennox Lewis's punches ? are nothing , compared to kicks. this isn't a debate of "my sport" is better than yours here. it's not even about being "wrong" or right... it's about logic. Hunt eating illegal blows (knee impacts in the back of the head) from a +300 lbs fighter... Hunt getting kneed and highkicked on the face... can't be compared to anything in pro boxing. And yet , even he was almost koed by an average hk once (like i told you before). So i'm not saying that Hunt is invincible either. far from it. but a "solid" chin in boxing. never gets to be tested with knees & shins. So McCall , best chin ever? i'm not buying it. forget Hunt , like i said in my other message , McCall is not "the" best chin in his own sport to begin with. I'd say top 3 best chin. but there's better. One last thing... ever seen Bonjasky vs Ray Mercer? that's another interesting example... Hks are not only more powerful (even your kicks are probably more powerful than any top punchers btw unless you're a skinny , starving midget...i'm exagerating here but you get the point)... anyway mercer vs bonjasky... also shows how different kicks are from punches...even when a fighter is not putting any efforts behind his kicks..it still hurts like hell..it's a very different kinda pain... there's nothing like it in pro boxing...Nothing. Take a big puncher like Tua for example... Tua had to combo Ruiz's face to finish him... and keep in mind that Tua is one of the most powerful puncher in recent boxing history. (along with shavers). even if a mw can land a proper , flush hk...chances are , he'll only need a single impact to ko even a super heavy. (that is , "if" he landed it). Hunt was knocked down 4 times in his career. once against a cruiserweight (via hk)...Hunt got knocked down but got back up before the 8 count... another time against a hw (took another hk on the side of the head)...knocked down but got up before the 8 count. once against jlb , (but because of the low kicks...he couldn't walk properly...) another time...(where he shoulda been koed but saved by the bell and had time to recuperate , just like Ali vs Henry Cooper)...also against jlb...(because of a shin impact on his neck)...he got up but wasn't responding to the ref and was saved just in time before the ref took any decisions... Anyway , mcCall? yes , amazing chin but not "the" best in history. what he's been tested with can't be compared... oh and i repeat... Ignashov hk to mccall's jaw ? little chances of surviving...i'm talking about a single impact here...maybe he'd get knocked down and maybe he'd still get up...but he'd still get knocked down...logically though..a flush hk = ko. (btw Hunt has never been tested by Ignashov either). Ignashov isn't the best ever or anything (had the potential but...ended up not living to the expectations) , but i'm picking him as an ideal example because he's an ex- muay thai fighter (thai clinch is his speciality though)
I don't need to read all of that. Do you have evidence that McCall cannot take a shot that Hunt can? It's a yes or no question. I will not insult you by trying to group you in with people and insulting the group as a whole, indirectly insulting you. That was petty. Talking about things that NO ONE can survive, is not a proper analogy to prove something that we know CAN happen. It's illogical to compare them.
While you might be right in saying that Mccall couldnt eat an HK but thats put Hunt in a boxing ring with Lennox and see if he could eat a straight right, I will put money down that he cant because he never took a punch as hard as Lewis'. While Mccall never took a HK, Hunt never took a right like Lewis'. You cant say either one has a better chin than the other because both never felt what the other one felt.
Which is what I am saying. And you cannot use the analogy of something that can't be done to compare to something that CAN be done.
Two good choices....McCullough's chin doesn't always get recognized and I tend to forget about him when discussing the best chins, but he had one made of titanium