The Greatest Fighter Before Modern MMA

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  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Who was he, and how would he do today?
     
  2. Donut62

    Donut62 Active Member Full Member

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    Define "before MMA". Because that could mean prior 1993, or prior 3000 years ago really.

    My guess is you are talking pre-UFC. Hard to say without head to head competition obviously. Have to think...
     
  3. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    leaning towards

    Kimura - #1 vale tudo fighter in his day
    James Jefferies - former #1 boxer with solid wrestling
    Jack Dempsey - former #1 boxer with cross training in wrestling and submissions
    Benny Uriquidez - very good kickboxer with judo, rumors of winning some sort of NHB event, forget the details.
    Alexander Kaerlin - dominant wrestling and size/strength, probably has at least rudimentary Judo or Sambo training, father rumored to be boxer/boxing coach.
     
  4. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Before MMA as it's considered today. Pre-1993, and not including Brazilian Vale Tudo competitions of the 1950's and 60's.
     
  5. amhlilhaus

    amhlilhaus Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'd say danny hodge or paul berlenbach, both champion level wrestlers who branched out into boxing and did very well.
     
  6. Donut62

    Donut62 Active Member Full Member

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    I'll throw Gene LeBell into the mix.
     
  7. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    I would like to throw Frank Dux name out there.




















    And now I would like to grab his name, and take it back. Because I was joking.
     
  8. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    That is not a joke. It is an atrocity.
     
  9. doefler182

    doefler182 Member Full Member

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    Danny Hodge gets my vote

    world class wrestler and a golden gloves boxer

    and the only man ive seen in his 80s who can still sqwish an apple with his bare hand!!!!:scaredas: