Clueless? Give your head a shake bud, and get your facts straight. Ken Norton is obvious, Jones was not a clear win, Jimmy Young BEAT Ali but didn't get the UD, Shavers was a draw in my eyes. Now do the math counting all his losses and the shady decisions how is he the "greatest fighter of all time"? He lost to Leon Spinks? atsch Marciano, Lewis, Louis, Holmes, Frazier, Tyson all in there primes would put Ali away. I can tell you are just a Ali nuthugger joke, so I don't expect you to agree with me.