I stumbled upon this chart, listing "the best heavyweights ever". Each were alloted a score for Power, Physical Attributes, Hand Speed, Footwork,Defense, Durability, Killer Instinct, Heart, Endurance, Ring Generalship, and then a total score calculated. This content is protected The rating scale for each category is here This content is protected The final results were. 1-2. This content is protected (89) Louis most closely resembles the perfect fighter. He scored high in power, hand speed, killer instinct, heart, and ring generalship. He did well in all categories with his lowest scores in footwork and chin but still "solid." A near fundamentally flawless masterful technician as well as being a devastating puncher. His combination punching to the head and body was the best in division history. 1-2. This content is protected (89) Ali's overall skills and strong showing in all categories give him a high mark. He received the only 10 in Footwork- as his lateral movement and foot speed was head and shoulders above the field. His hand speed, durability, heart and ring generalship were among the best. 3. This content is protected (8 8) Holmes scored very well in all categories showing why he is on the rise in many all time lists. A great technician. Not a true power puncher but good enough. 4. This content is protected (87) Johnson received my only 10 in Defense as he was a master at glove blocking, parrying, feinting, smothering and evading blows, and was a great counter-puncher, things most heavyweights are not good at. Ring founder Nat Fleischer, who saw them all, believed that Johnson's skills were incomparable defensively. Johnson had a 10 year unbeaten streak longer than many a fighters career. Johnson's relatively weak chin kept him from ranking higher. 5. This content is protected (86) Dempsey's ability to inflict heavy damage, his will and killer instinct and often under appreciated boxing skills show why some consider him to be a heavyweight version of Roberto Duran. One of the greatest attackers and finishers in ring history, Dempsey finished 1st in 1950 AP Poll as the greatest fighter of all time. 6-7. This content is protected (83) Big enough to compete with modern heavyweights, Jeffries was also a world class athlete with a 6' high jump and could run the 100 yard dash in 10.5 seconds. Jeffries combined great stamina with a great chin which made him a very tough opponent. Big Jeff was a strong puncher who fought out of a crouch. A bit crude but no more so than Marciano or Foreman. 6-7. This content is protected (83) One of the best in combination of both speed and power in ring history. Tyson also had great killer instinct. His lowest score was in heart as he never showed the ability to come from behind when hurt and was a psychological front-runner. 8-9. This content is protected (82) A strong puncher with a powerful jab which came behind an 84" reach equal to that of Lennox Lewis and among the best in division history. He was a good technician with under-appreciated boxing skills. He had a decent chin. On the downside he is the only heavyweight champion to quit/surrender his title on his stool so his heart is suspect. 8-9. This content is protected (82) Lennox results should be no suprise. He has the size, reach and frightening power to knock out virtually anyone. He can box well, has maneuverability, and is an adequate ring general. He could be more aggressive at times and was inconsistent in this manner. His chin was also not at the highest level. 10-11. This content is protected (81) Marciano was a bullish swarmer who broke down foes through pressure and non stop punching. He scored high in power, durability, and heart. He scored less well in footwork, defense, hand speed, and ring generalship. 10-11. This content is protected (81) A strong pressure fighter who gave 3 minutes of work every round, he was also a strong puncher especially with his great left hook. His defense is pretty good, especially against boxer types as his slip and duck rate is the highest I have encountered. His chin is suspect against the biggest hitters. 12-13. This content is protected (80) George's power, killer instinct, and strong chin make him a tough opponent. In my view few who stood in front of him would have hope to survive. His weak scores in hand speed, defense and endurance kept him from a high rating. 12-13. This content is protected (80) Holyfield had no weak areas showing he was a good all around fighter in his heavyweight prime. He could punch well, box, move, counter, had loads of heart and durability and was a fine ring general. Not among the greatest punchers he could finish a man when he was hurt. Holyfield mixed great performances with lackluster ones. 14-15. This content is protected (79)The best inside fighter among the giants. He was a strong puncher whose poor training habits and lack of dedication kept him from being among the top 10. 14-15. This content is protected (79) A master boxer who could find the weakness in any opponent's style and exploit it. He had nice footwork and a great jab, and a strong chin. Perhaps at his peak at light-heavyweight he was nontheless a very fine heavyweight boxer. 16-17. This content is protected (78) A truly clever boxer whose innovative ring technique; jab, left hook, footwork and defense revolutionized the sport and brought on the modern age of boxing in 1892 when he beat Sullivan. Rated # 5 amongst all time heavyweights by Ring Magazine founder Nat Fleischer in 1958. 16-17. This content is protected (78). A sleek and slick boxing artist who was at his peak as a light-heavyweight where most of his greatest victories occured. Nevertheless he was a solid heavyweight champion defeating an old comebacking Louis on a decision and making 9 successful title defenses, only Louis, Ali, and Holmes had more defending the linear heavyweight title. 18-20. This content is protected (77). An intelligent boxer and counter-puncher who possessed a solid right hand knockout punch. Fairly durable against most opponents, Max defeated a young Joe Louis and lost by devastating knockout in the rematch. Likely would have beaten Braddock and became first man to regain title if given opportunity. 18-20. This content is protected (77). A clever boxer and spoiler with excellent footwork, feinting ability and the required punch. Oldest heavyweight champion until Foreman regained title. Sporadic results. 18-20. This content is protected (77). The youngest heavyweight champion in history until Tyson. Fought in the same peek-a-boo bob and weave defense as did Tyson. Had a pair of the fastest hands in heavyweight history, possessor of a powerful left hook. On the downside had the weakest chin among the champs, downed 16 times and knocked out 5 times. No idea why the sunglass smiley popped up when I copy and pasted. :huh What do you think of the order of the list? Agree? Disagree?
Not the worst list I guess. This can never be proven, but its not bad. Tyson a fraction high for my liking, and a few holes can be picked in it. If Lewis scored low for chin and defence, then surely he should have been KTFO more often? Bowe maybe a bit high also? Very short prime, only really proved anything against one other fighter, who he had ALL the advantages over. To be honest, don't really know enough about anyone much older than Liston to really comment.
:good Glad to hear someone say that.... I get tired of hearing people say things like... " Dude your a ****ing ******!! Everyone knows that Jack Johnson is so much better than George Foreman!! ****ing dumb noob!!" I always wonder what they are basing this on - A few grainy speeded up film clips?
Holyfield too low, Tyson and Lewis too high are the primary objections I would make. Otherwise, not too bad.
Joe Louis rightly at No 1. Marciano is way way too low, his style would have given many on that list fits.
Your list is as good as any. I like Tyson over all of the guys you list at 6-7. But many would argue that I overrate Mike Tyson. - Jason
He shouldnt be in the top 5, he did nothing amazing but beat 14 years past his prime tyson and had 2 reletively close matches with a guy 6 years out of his prime.