the greatest journeyman

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  1. mochabuzz

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  2. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    I think (although most of you have English as their mother tongue) some of you guys here don´t know what a journeyman is, world champions can´t be journeymen, only later in their career, when they´re shot and old and fight only for their money (Joe Brown for example) than they´re in this moment journeymen, but at their best they were world class, so that´s bull**** to rate them as journeymen, Walcott, Charles, Gatti, etc. weren´t journeymen...
     
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  4. Sweet Science

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    I would say Sam Langford was possibly the most avoided fighter.
     
  5. Sweet Science

    Sweet Science Peaceful Muslim Warrior Full Member

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    Sorry wrong thread,

    Apologies, still tring to get used to navigating around the site and posting!
     
  6. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    he fights for pay which is common but fights anyone and losess alot of fights

    joe grim could be given a pat on the back as he was a man who only fought for money.
    jimmy thunder i would consider a journeyman great puncher against good comp just lost alot of times.

    anyways journeymen means that they fight for a living...and not for a career. journey= day (in the day the work) man=man :good

    if they win a belt then that means they won a title but doesnt mean they are are still journeymen.
     
  7. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    micky ward won the wbu belt which is the 6th belt in importance but he wasnt a well schooled boxer,and loss many a time.

    james braddock i wouldnt consider a journeyman he was a top contender at light heavy and was a well touted prospect. he just lost a few times and look futile for a world title shot and he did fight back and won the title over highly regarded max baer.
     
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    anyone noted uriah grant?
    cruiserwieght champ ibo belt methinks
    born in jamaica ,lost an beat top cruisers , tommy hearns retire(though it was a broken ankle more right timing at the right place than skill) had a real war with carl tompson rocked back and fourth all night long.won the belt form sellers/norris (i think cant remeber)
    true power good skills was a real warrior
    uriah grant best cruiserwieght journeyman
     
  9. Asterion

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    Angel Robinson Garcia
     
  10. mr. magoo

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    I don't know if anyone remembers Harold Brazier. Personally, I think he deserves a nod.
     
  11. janitor

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    Look at the annual rankings for the 40s and 50s then highlight the fighters Walcott beat.

    You might find it enlightening.
     
  12. la-califa

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    How about, Alvaro "Yaqui" Lopez, Armando Muniz, or "Yori Boy" Campas. Murray Sutherland, Colin Jones. Tough fighters All, Just a bit of bad luck...
     
  13. Vantage_West

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    ross puritty
    fought all the hardest and unbeaten fighters in the sport good chin great power little technique

    im surprised that no one has said his name but

    emanual augustus.....fouhgt 8 world champoins made every fight entertaining class act and can beat the best of the comp
     
  14. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    campas was a good fihgter and below elite fighter we are lookiong for guys that lose and win sparingly but are good fighters campas is too good to be a journeyman
     
  15. Vantage_West

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    julius francis
    typical thug turned boxer
    was undefeated for no more than 6 fights before being stopped by a 'young' john ruiz (young meaning not huggy bear ruiz) and was dropped as a journeyman already
    beat the late james oyebola,danny williams,garry deleney,pele reid
    fought oleg maskaev,audley harrison,matt skelton scott gammer,sinan samil sam,axel shulz,vitali klitshko
    this is a very thick resume for a man of his stature underated but was never going to win world honours
    fought every single british heavywieght champ and is one of the few boxers to have the lonsdale belt 5 times he won a commonwealth title fight and 4 british title fights against very tough competition.


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    (look at his shoe...see that red mark? that is a sticker saying daily mirror thats how much chance he had of winning that a paper was advertising on the bottom of his shoe)
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    julius francis i salute you


    ps he is now going into cage rage