Not bull**** at all. Had Ali not been pulling Foreman's head down repeatedly in Zaire, he would'va been beaten then. Watch the first round alone. Some nice counters, right hand leads from Ali, true. But look what he's doing to Foreman's head. I mean WHAT THE **** he is doing..?? How can he get away with it? As for Tyson, I think you may be well right, n. I have some bigger doubts with Foreman only.
The only 2 people in my opinion who would give a prime Tyson trouble is Lennox lewis and Ali. I just watched, WK Vs Chambers, Vk Vs Arreola, and both Klits vs Sanders, Tyson would beat the **** out of both of them. Tyson isnt the GOAT thats Ali. However Tyson had more potential than any other to be the GOAT, but he blew it.
Mike Tyson is one of my favorite boxers of all time for all the exciting beatdowns he delivered pre 1990, which you refer to as his prime. Problem was his skills were showcased against nobodies and some very mediocre champions and older Larry Holmes. Buster Douglas showed the world Tyson was beatable if you showed him no fear, hit him back, and hold your defense until the later rounds. James Quick Tillis had a slick style and went 12 rounds with Iron Mike in 1986. Although he lost by decision, he showed early on you could survive getting KO'd with the right style.
Tyson was a great heavyweight and in his prime he would have been hard for anyone to beat.I do think though that had he met a fighter like Holyfield in the 80s he would have still lost.If he could not hurt someone enough to deter them from throwing punches and trying to win the fight in the later rounds he would be in trouble.I think he would beat Lennox,Frazier and Foreman in his prime.A fighter as clever as Ali would be too much for him and Holyfield would have beaten him the same way he did in their first fight.Liston in his prime would also beat a prime Tyson,he would use his jab to good effect and had more than enough power to deter Tyson from swarming in at him.Tyson would KO Holmes though,the jab alone would not be enough to hold Tyson off all night.
First of all Bowe and Tyson agreed not to fight each other because of mutual respect and the fact that they were from the same neighbourhood Secondly.......Tyson fought Lennox?
I'd give the '86 - '88 Tyson at least a chance to beat any fighter in history. He had that Cus style of fighting down way better than Patterson ever had it and it worked great for his height and body type. Doubt we'll ever see a combination of speed and power like that again at heavyweight.
Tyson was a great combination of talent technically applied to stylistic skill and was one of the most exciting fighters in the history of the sport. H2H in his prime he probably gives any ATG heavyweight at least a good fight, but there are much more proven fighters from the past who one could easily imagine outdoing Tyson in the ring.