The Greatest Resume Of All Time By Weightclass

In fact it is smilar (if not the same) scenario with Greb and Charles at 160 and 175 respectively. The MW division does have the tightest top 5 outta the lot imo, Hagler and Monzon had different types of careers at the weight han did Greb and Robinson, but they all bring something to the rankings worth some thinking. Then there's Ketchel and Hopkins , its all very tight imo.

 

You must not have all the info.

Charles also seems to get the benefit of the doubt because he fought in an even better LHW era( as hard as that is to believe given the era Spinks fought in), beating even better competition. Charles also had more longevity at both Heavyweight and Light Heavyweight.

But honestly, do I even have to argue this one? Charles beat him thrice yes, while the rest of his resume(outside of even the wins over Moore, which already gives him a good argument for ranking higher) was just as good. Moore has the title, which Charles was never given a shot at. That isn't his fault.

He's more of a #1 lock than a top 3 candidate. As to your first point, it's hard to be a champion even while beating everyone and not receiving a shot.

 

OMG , i was harsher on him than you Pea??!! You must be on the slide!!! (kiddin')

 

The greatest resume ,spanning several weight classes,and not stipulating winning,includes the following in it.
Jack Johnson
Bob Fitzsimmons
Jack O Brien
Battling Levinsky
SamMcvey
Joe Walcott
Joe Gans
Johnny Kilbane
Among others ,the man ? " I am Joe Gim I fear no man on earth"

 

For me the greatest dominanc eof a division is Benny leonards ,7 1/2 years ,over very possibly the greatest collection of Lightweights ever.
Johnny Dundee
Joe Mandot
Rocky Kansas
Freddie Welsh
Richie Mitchell
Ted Kid Lewis
Charley White
Soldier Bartfield
Joe Welling
Lew Tendler
Pinky MItchell
Joe Shugrue
dsq l to Jack Britton ina fight he was winning.

 

Totally unecessary.

The point of a forum is to discuss ideas in a civil manner. This isn't the general forum.

Anyway why is Ezzard Charles number one at LHW?

What criteria do you rank fighters by?

I did a thread a few months ago where I spoke about two fighters:

Fighter A: Cleans out the division as champ.
Fighter B: Cleans out the division without the title.

Most of the posters gave the nod to Fighter A over Fighter B by the virtue of being the Champion. Taking that into account I challenged the position that Charles should be rated as number one on the basis that he was never champ.

 

Resume, dominance, consistency, skill level, pretty much the standard. Any way you slice it --unless you're one of the ones who likes to detract from a fighter who was never given a title shot despite beating all the best-- he's the best LHW.

 

For the Original Eight:

Heavyweight: Ali

Light Heavyweight: Might actually go with Jimmy Bivens. Charles would be a good choice, too. Micheal Spinks' resume at LH ain't too shabby either.

Middleweight: Greb

Welterweight: Tough call. Robinson, I guess. Could make a good case for Jack Britton, too.

Lightweight: Benny Leonard or Ike Williams

Featherweight: Baby Arizmendi

Bantamweight: Eder Jofre

Flyweight: Miguel Canto

 

Sorry man, i was outta order, took it 2 far

 

Just compare the names they beat at the weight and how many times look at Charles:

Archie Moore x3
Jimmy Bivins x 3 at this weight
Joey Maxim x 2 at this weight
Lloyd Marshall x 2
Oakland Billy Smith x 2
Sam Baroudi
Elmer Ray (even though Ray was a heavy Charles only weighed 175lbs for this fight)

That era of Light heavyweights is probably the best ever and not to mention he beat Lesnevich at heay while only weighing 178lbs.