The Guy's Rocky Beats & Those He Doesn't

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  1. Moggy94

    Moggy94 Active Member Full Member

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    Again like I said though none of those guys are greater than Rocky, but just because they weren't as great doesn't mean they couldn't beat them, they were in totally different eras and Rocky wouldn't of been a heavyweight if he was in their eras. If we got a time machine and brought them back and Rocky lost it's really no big deal at all. Those guys are bigger, taller, stronger, more reach and Tony Tucker and Tim Witherspoon had good skills so it's not hard to believe they can beat a 5'10 185 pound man with a shorter reach than welterweights. 185 pound men ain't built to take power punches off guys like Rahman and Wilder too.
     
  2. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    I guess that’s the big divide in fantasy match ups. And We can’t prove it.
     
  3. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Liston?...the guy...who as Champion QUIT WHILE SITTING ON HIS STOOL against the light hitting Cassius Clay in Miami in Feb.1964? Then...a year later...TOOK A DIVE against Ali up in Lewiston Maine in May 1965...that Liston? Don't think so. Sonny had a bit of the "dog" in him.....no QUIT in Rocky Marciano!!!
     
  4. cross_trainer

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    Unless we are talking turn of the century conditions, I can't see Jeffries or Johnson beating him.
     
  5. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No it certainly doesn't!
     
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  6. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I stipulated no alphabet champs.
     
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  7. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No quit in Arturo Gatti either ,would you back him to beat Mike Spinks?
    Because that in effect is what you are asking of Rocky.
     
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  8. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Differing opinions is what I want.
     
  9. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The guy who after getting a broken nose against monster hitting Cleveland Williams gravelled him? The guy who received a broken jaw early in a fight and continued to lose a split dec?
    Yes that guy!
     
  10. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ali was light hitting?
    He stopped
    Bonavena, who else did?
    Mac Foster
    Ron Lyle
    Jerry Quarry x2
    Jimmy Ellis
    Floyd Patterson x2
    George Foreman
    Al Blue Lewis
    Karl Mildenberger
    Chuck Wepner
    Joe Frazier
    Zora Folley
    That light hitting guy!
     
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  11. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Bergeron Avatar Club Full Member

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    Isn't that what I did? My opinion is that Marciano beats Johnson, and that the outcome of the Jeffries bout is far more clearly in Marciano's favor than the OP stated.
     
  12. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As the OP
    I was commending you!
     
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  13. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Bergeron Avatar Club Full Member

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    Ah! I see.

    It's funny because I actually had a second half of my post asking, "Or are you commending me for giving you what you asked for?"

    But I deleted it because I thought it sounded kind of arrogant if you weren't. :lol:
     
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  14. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nothing arrogant about you CT!
     
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  15. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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    Never in a million years does Marciano beat Smokin Joe
     
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