The Gypsy King Has Retired . Where do you rank him?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by ThatOne, Jan 13, 2025.


Where

  1. 1-5

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  2. 6-10

    3.4%
  3. 11-15

    6.9%
  4. 16-20

    29.3%
  5. 21-25

    17.2%
  6. <25

    43.1%
  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I don’t believe we’ve seen his last fight. He does this periodically as a marketing ploy to stir up hype every time he announces he’s coming back. Only the next time he won’t have the appeal of being an undefeated linear champion. As for his all time heavyweight rating I selected the 16-20 option on the poll but that was honestly without giving it much thought. He was in fact a linear champion who had a few good wins. If he stays retired ( doubtful ) then he’ll have the claim of never having been stopped and only losing to a man who will no doubt make the HOF. I suppose that’s enough for a top 20 rating but again I’m not claiming anything in stone
     
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  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    He’s not retired.

    I don’t believe a word of it.
     
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  3. Terror

    Terror free smoke Full Member

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    Somewhere from 15-25 depending on how you view his h2h ability. Would probably be closer to 20 for me if I really thought about it.
     
  4. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I rank him in the 30's I mean what's his accomplishments? Beating Chisora 3 times? Beating a 40 year old Wlad then ducking the rematch?
    Going 2-0-1 with Wilder and being on the floor more than a Persian rug ?
    Then losing twice to the best fighter he fought Usyk? 30's is about right.
     
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  5. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's a lil harsh. I never liked Fury's shtick, including licking Wilder's blood. This isn't WWE.
     
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  6. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    One of the biggest underachievers in the history of the division.
     
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  7. Spreadeagle

    Spreadeagle Active Member Full Member

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    Fair enough mate but with Ali and Leonard their greatness made their multi-retirements forgivable.
    However with Fury,his seemingly innumerable retirements and ' unretirements ' are just one of the
    many reasons why I can't stand him.
     
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  8. thistle

    thistle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he uses such pish to avoid, duck and buy time to try profiting from the road of lest resistance.

    I like Fury, but as a Boxer he is a pure protected Fraud!!!
     
  9. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    Fury left a lot on the table. He reminds me of Bowe: big, athletic guy with good fundamentals and skills, but had periods of inactivity and several poor performances due to weight/mental health issues. Neither of them fulfilled their full potential and missed several big names of their era.

    Resume wise, you can make a case that Fury isn't even in the top 20. Fury has a very top heavy resume dethroning the long reigning Klitschko (pretty old) and Wilder (a sloppy, dumb, but dangerous and athletic heavy hitter) but then it gets very thin as you keep going. A trilogy with Chisora, Whyte, and several "who the hell was he again?" names such as Cunningham or McDermott just isn't cutting it when you want to make it into the top 20. And let's not forget him going life and death with Ngannou the MMA guy with zero pro fights. Losing to Usyk isn't a terrible way to go out, but when you have back to back losses to the best opponent you faced, it does raise questions just how good the fighter is.

    Now in terms of h2h/boxing ability, Fury is certainly within the top 20. In his prime, he had good footwork, was a decent combination puncher, could take a punch and always got up, had decent hand speed and ring IQ for a big man. Plus, he knew how to fight tall. He'd be a handful for almost anyone when he was focused. The problem is that he was so inconsistent...kinda like Bowe.
     
  10. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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    Excellent summary
     
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  11. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He wasn't.
     
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  12. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I think Top 20 is a cinch.

    I do enjoy seeing the sort that others will rank above him... breadline brutes and wharfbrawlers...
     
  13. KO_King

    KO_King Horizontal Heavyweight Full Member

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    I don't think he will retire. But, as of now, maybe top 30. He had one or two good wins and flashes of something special. But he tried to pick, choose and talk his way to ATG status more than he physically achieved it. His resume absolutely does not bear him out as a top tier HW. He was capable of more - but didn't deliver on his potential
     
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  14. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I personally put him in that 25-50 range…he could have been way better had he beaten more ranked men. Not sure what his grand total was but I don’t think it’s great.
     
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  15. Spreadeagle

    Spreadeagle Active Member Full Member

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    I agree with practically everything you say......... except I also detest him as a person !