The Harsh Reality: Heavyweight Is A Turgid, Squalid, Lugubrious, Wretched Cesspit Of A Division.

Ibragimov was hardly a nice joke. He was a very good heavyweight who retired young.

Today we have Joshua, who has yet to beat a top 5 guy in his prime, Wilder who has also yet to beat a top 5 guy in his prime, Fury, who has yet to beat one top 5 guy in his prime, and Parker who's essentially a good loser vs the best. Chagaev and Peter > Parker. Povetkin is proven, but he'll be 39 years old in two months! That's the division. Its an undefined mess.

The bottom half of today's top ten is very weak, with far less talent that Maskeav, Peter, Ibragmov, and Gomez

 

Ruiz was a bum who could only hold a title because the 2000s were as i said garbage, he was not better than Parker. He lost two times against Valuev, a former middleweight Roy Jones jr. and lost to SPLIT DECISION
against Chagaev.

I grew up with the 2000s and watched every significant heavyweight fight since 2003, that era was not better
than today's era, Wladimir and Vitali were great ATG fighters, the rest was plain and simple garbage.

 

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Wilder

 

Remember when Ozzie Trucker Alex Leapai who lost every round to Malik Scott became Wladimir Klitschko's no#1 mandatory challenger.
lololol.. If that happened today it would be like Dave Allen becoming Joshua's mandatory. Thats just one example of how woefully poor the K2 era was.

 

Whyte beat Browne who beat Chagaev who beat Ruiz.. Who is a 'bum'! Thus the legacy of your era is founded on 'bums'..

LOL

 

Heavyweight is the only weight class. The other classes are just full of wannabes.

Everyone wants to be the heavyweight champion of the world.

Look at what Toney did to try to achieve that dream.

 

No, the bottom half are not far less talented, they have exactly the same level of talent as those guys and only
the bottom 3, the rest is superior.

Joshua, Wilder, Fury, Ortiz, Povetkin, Whyte, Parker and Usyk with all things they bring to the table makes that generation a joy to watch and far superior, wether you want it to be true or not, it's not my problem.

Wether those things are counterpunching boxing skills with solid tight defense, variety of punches and great
power like Joshua, tremendous otherwordly power and explosive athleticism despite having not the best skills
like Wilder or all around superb skills like Fury or Usyk... makes that generation superior.

 

Yh its so good a 40 year old K2 era leftover is currently Joshuas mandatory for two of his belts & one of Wilders recent mandatories was a guy he'd already beat (Stiverne) who had only had one bum fight in nearly 3 years & looked like he was about to give birth! Even fat mong Chisora pushed Whyte to the brink & banged out Takam!

This era is mainly built off of fighters you have literally spent years laughing at & fighters who lost to K2

Exactly WHO have Wilder & Joshua beat?

 

Nah, this is a golden age of heavyweight boxing - not necessarily in terms of how good they are though it could be - but in terms of excitement and interest. Trendy hardcore types like to crap on what's popular to make them feel sophisticated and superior - happens all the time.

Previous golden eras weren't considered as such by the people at the time. It was only later that people looked back and said it's a golden age.

 

Why is Kownacki ranked so high with everybody?

 

For me, I think this is actually the most interesting the division has been in decades!

There has been some really entertaining fights the past 18 months, AJ v Wlad, Whyte v Chisora, Bellew v Haye I, Wilder v Ortiz, Whyte v Parker, Povetkin v Price, and plus we still don't know, for certain, who the number 1 guy is, and Tyson Fury is on his road to comeback to spice things up further, and Usyk maybe stepping up to HW soon as well. So there is still some great fights to be made

Maybe the division isn't stacked with highly technical fighters, but when was it ever like that? I watch boxing to be entertained, and I've enjoyed a lot of the fights recently, and there's a lot to look forward too as well.

 

So you think this era started in 2014 ?

No it started already in 2010, i differentiate eras by decades 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s, 2010s...

Povetkin and Chisora are 2010s fighters, the K2 era were mainly the 2000s.

Haye is a 2010s heavyweight fighter, Povetkin is a 2010s fighter, Pulev is a 2010s fighter, the 2010s were
already better than the 2000s but the 2020s will be far superior.

 

Vital smashes Wilder

Byrd beats Parker

Peak Manny steward Wlad jabs Joshua Munsters head off!

& younger Povetkin>than the one who just nearly got knocked out by a journeyman plumber!

Peak Haye Kos Whtye too!

Wilder wouldn't know a 'schooling' if it bummed him..

Fury is the best in terms of natural talent but he ate pies instead & chose to bypass owning an era favouring obesity & mental health sectioning!

2018 Fury is a gimmick...

 

Only K2 bumboys rate the division they fought in. Two bros tag teaming a landscape of C level plodders was bad for the sport. To make matters worse the fights weren't even any good. They were awful.
A great fighter should be able to dispatch their under-matched opponents in spectacular fashion but that wasn't the case.

Good competitive Rivalries is what makes divisions and you can't get better than Joshua , Fury and Wilder with Usyk soon to be added to the mix.
The second tier isn't too bad either with Whyte , Hughie , Parker , Miller , Kownacki , Ortiz.
Then there's quality up n comers like Hrgovic and Dubouis.

The HW division is healthy and stacked with life. It can't really be a bad division when you have a mega fight the whole world wants to see between Joshua and Wilder.

 

Can't wait for the 2030s