The Harsh Reality: Heavyweight Is A Turgid, Squalid, Lugubrious, Wretched Cesspit Of A Division.

I like both guys at CW but Usyk in particular has the power to give any HW problems. Parker got no respect from AJ Roboto and he's 30-40 pounds heavier than Uysk.

 

Usyk will fight at around 220-225 as a HW. And Joshua won’t respect Oleksandr’s power? Well he will respect the hell out of Usyk’s hand speed, ring IQ and footwork by the end of the 1st round when they fight. And if he doesn’t OH WELL. Lol Joshua will still get his face boxed in.

And Gassiev will have NASTY power at HW. He’ll scramble Anthony’s brains.

 

I have a different take on this thread. Wilder is best of the division, so ppl **** on the division. The reality is that there's a lot of competitive fights that can made and that's a quality division in my eyes. Biggest problem with these big guys is their stamina to bang but you know that going in. April Fools or not CST80 stumbled onto the next hater narrative after Wilder destroys AJ.

 

Yes, the division sucks. Done

 

Even the 90's wasn't that deep with elite talent. Look at the Ring Magazine top 10's from the era, lots of forgettable names in the Whyte/Miller bottom top 10 range. There's a lot of myth about how boxing was in the past. I think this era is more exciting than the previous. Yeah, you stumbled on a narrative that could be used but I've already was anticipating it. Can't wait.

 

Boxing is dead.

I’m done with this site.

Bye bye.

 

I ain't gonna read all that 80 but I do agree with the base statement. I am sure you made your point.

 

Heavy and super middle are in the crapper. Everything south of feather is on a current downward bent, all of them fairly top-heavy without much depth.

Cruiser, light heavy, and middle represent the 40lb "hot spot", IMO.

...as per my findings here a couple of months ago, proving truer & truer as time goes on:
https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/most-talent-laden-division-currently.601397/

 

First post in a long time I completely agree with. Been watching boxing since mid-70's, back in the so-called golden age of heavyweights, and the 90's was a close second IMO. So let's look at the list of top guys from the 70s:

Ali
Frazier
Foreman
Holmes
Norton
Young
Shavers

And the 90s:

Lewis
Bowe
Holyfield
Tyson
Tua
Mercer
Ruddock
Golota

Look at video of any of these guys and compare to the guys of today. All of the guys of the 70s/90s had much better overall ring skills (particularly punch technique) than any of today's guys. The thing that sticks out most with today's guys is they just don't don't know how to punch with effective technique or put together fluid combinations. I don't know if it's superior training that existed back then or today's fighters just don't have the natural ability or what it is. But for anyone who watched those past guys fight there is no way you can tell me that today's fighters are anywhere close in quality to the fighters from those decades. And to throw in the Klitschkos in their primes would easily handle today's guys as well.

Now- that said, that doesn't mean that we can't have some fights that are entertaining and fun to watch. I'd put some of the Wlad/Joshua and Wilder/Ortiz rounds up with some of the best of those eras. So if we can get some exciting, entertaining fights, I'll take it!

 

Wilder is in no way the best of this delapidated division. Povetkin, Parker, AJ all take him to school. I'll concede that he may be better than we thought, physically. Skills wise, he's abysmal.