The hate Jermain "Bad Intentions" Taylor is getting lately is B******T (video added)

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  1. dbouziane

    dbouziane ............. Full Member

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    rico and zak blindly hate taylor.
     
  2. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    I don't disagree that Hopkins has had a better career, but bottom line JT beat his ass not once but twice, and if Hopkins was so vastly superior it wouldn't have came down to close decisions. Hopkins didn't have the heart, the guts, or the sack to dispose of this "overrated hypejob". JT beat his ass cleanly twice. 5 of the 6 judges had JT winning BOTH fights, please spare me the cry baby ****, he lost both fights simple and plain. He gave away the first six rounds against Taylor in the first fight, no way he was going to win, and I don't know how anyone would think that if you are swept on the cards for the first six rounds that you would be able to win without a KD or KO, he was mathmatically eliminated. It's Hopkins fault that he tried to half ass his way through the fight and got out hustled by the hungrier guy. In the second fight, Hopkins promised he was going KO JT and whatever, every time he opened up he got his ass rocked, hence he shut it down and tried to make it the shittiest fight imaginable and "steal" the fight, what he didn't account for was that JT was bigger, faster, and more willing to go TAKE what he wanted. I mean cry me a ****ing river about Hopkins gay ass, even IF you thought he won more rounds (which he clearly didn't) he should have had his God Damn title taken for how few punches he threw and how pathetic he looked.
     
  3. Talivar

    Talivar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    People under rate Froch in the same way and since Taylor lost to Froch they also now underrate Taylor. Im pretty sure if Froch ever gets more love round here then Taylor Hate will slow or stop aswell.
     
  4. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Yes he will fight in 2011, being in Little Rock, I try to make it my business to keep up with him. There are a lot of rumblings about him possibly fighting Dirrell next year at 168, but lately I've heard they may try to put him against Dawson at 175. Personally I think going up in weight is a bad move, and they should bring him back down to 160, take a couple of decent fights then make a run at a title he could legitimately win, but they seem determined to move up...which I view as a bad idea. Either way he will fight in 2011 and these are two names that I've heard kicked around, not saying it's a fact or to count on it, but that's what "they" say.
     
  5. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Taylor brought excitement to the middleweight division, he wanted to fight everyone.
     
  6. Nay_Sayer

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    Those "big" wins weren't big. Hopkins deserved the W in @ least one of those fights. Had Hopkins been 5 years younger, the first fight wouldn't have seen the final bell.

    Taylor was the benefactor of some bad judging against old fighters [Hopkins, Wright]. His management team avoided punchers once he won the title. We all saw what happened once he got in the ring with someone who could CRACK. Losing to Pavlik, of all people, in the manner that he lost was SHAMEFUL. 43 year old Hopkins made 20 something year old Pavlik look like an amateur.
     
  7. Little_Red

    Little_Red Free Boo Radley Full Member

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    Jermain Taylor and Kelly Pavlik are two of only five men in history who won the middleweight championship of the world while still undefeated. (We don't count guys who won vacant paper titles. We only count the linear world championship.)

    When Taylor fought Raul Marquez, Raul had not lost a fight in 5 years. His last previous loss was Vargas in 1999. Jermain blistered his ass in 9 rounds. When JT fought Edouard, Daniel Edouard was an undefeated contender who just beat 7 shades of **** out of undefeated Willie Gibbs in 4 rounds. Jermain stopped Edouard in 3 rounds, and poor Daniel was never the same. That set up the Hopkins fight, and Jermain "Bad Intentions" Taylor promptly dethroned a living legend.

    Pavlik came up the hard way. He fought on ESPN, Versus, Telemundo, et, et. He called out Winky Wright, Arthur Abraham, Jermain Taylor, and generally challenged anybody who mattered, but nobody wanted to hear from Kelly Pavlik. Pavlik only got a break because HBO wanted to make Miranda into a star, and thought Pavlik was the right guy to make Edison look good. Larry Merchant told us the fight promised to be "krunk," and for six and a half rounds the crowd was on it's feet screaming their guts out!

    The night finally came when undefeated challenger met undefeated champion and "somebodie's OH had to Go!" That night we witnessed one of the greatest middleweight title fights in history!
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    **** THE HATERS!
     
  8. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    While I don't necessarily like the way it ended, I can't help but agree it was a helluva fight and this version of Pavlik was pretty damn good.
     
  9. DaveK

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    I always thought he was way overrated. In my opinion (and I'm not alone in this), he lost the first one with Hopkins clearly and lost to Winky. I'll concede the second Hopkins fight as a win, but you could make a case either way.

    Then, after being thrust into the bigtime and touted as the next biggest thing, I read an article in which he was saying things to the effect that he doesn't watch boxing as a fan or watch any of the big fights unless he's with some friends, and didn't seem to know or care much about the heritage of the title and distinction he now possessed... In my mind, he was essentially pissing on boxing heritage and his Ring belt and the sport he represented.

    If that wasn't enough to turn me off completely and sell all my stock in him, he gets pushed back and big-manned by a smaller (way smaller) man in Ouma... Ouma backed him up and Taylor couldn't figure out how to keep him off by simply using his jab. It was embarassing. He could have easily big-manned Ouma around, but instead, the opposite is happening!

    Then he gets outboxed and outworked by Spinks. Should have been a loss. Again, getting outjabbed and outfought basically by a smaller guy, when Taylor is a freaking enormous middleweight...

    Steward must have been suspicious of his chin (pure speculation, of course) or it was completely coincidental that Taylor never fought any real dangerous punchers at a high level until the Pavlik fight and look what happened...

    It is a shame how his career is turning out, as no man wants to face his family and friends or fans like that, but he had nuts, that's for sure.
     
  10. Little_Red

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    I see Taylor and Pavlik as permanently tied together. Both goes fell off, and we really do not know if they will ever be back on top. That does not negate, or discredit what the did on their way up through the ranks, or what they produced in their two fights. I really hate seeing two guys who gave us so much catch so much **** from "fans" and "journalists."
     
  11. Little_Red

    Little_Red Free Boo Radley Full Member

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    Utter nonsense! Steward wanted Taylor to fight Miranda, not Spinks.
     
  12. DaveK

    DaveK Vicious & Malicious Full Member

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    Like I said, pure speculation. Read the comment completely.

    I also said it could have been coincidence...
     
  13. dbouziane

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    this is correct. instead they put edison in there w/ kelly...all the while edison is talking **** to jermain trying to build up the eventual showdown b/c there was no way edison was losing to kelly.
     
  14. MancMexican

    MancMexican Blood & Guts Forever Full Member

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    BHop was p4p #1 when JT fought him. Winky Wright was p4p #3. Regardless of how you scored the fights, Taylor gave the best fighter in the world and the 3rd best fighter in the world all they could handle.
     
  15. dbouziane

    dbouziane ............. Full Member

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    :deal thank you!!

    if he really was that bad and really was the hbo produced bum he's made out to be today by many, bhop and winky would have made him look as foolish as they did tito.