The heavyweight champion as a political tool, history repeats itself!

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Janitor wrote


    Janitor,

    Of course Hussein had WMD’s. McVey is now going to go off tangent and post garbage links to mitigate his mistakes.

    Iraq is one giant sand box the size of Texas. The WMD were likely buried, or moved away.

    Not only did Hussein has WMD”s he used them, and invaded Kuwait for control of oil.

    He has to be stopped, and that’s exactly what happened.
     
  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Even the most die hard proponents of the war have given up arguing that Iraq still had WMDs when we invaded. Tony Blair long ago switched his argument to "we had to do it for humanitarian reasons". Saddam Hussein was as cruel and corrupt as any dictator in the world, but we did not improve then situation by removing him. The current problems with ISIs, are a direct consequence of his removal.
     
  3. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    This is what makes Nazism so monstrous to me. A crime unmatched in history.
     
  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    To be clear about the numbers, 7 million military personnel in Russia, and 20 million civilians.
     
  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    TOTAL RUBBISH!

    You are arguing against the Teams of Inspectors that went to Iraq and found nothing,The C I A,The New York Times CBS,NBC,the Government of Great Britain.
    What Fantasy Island do you inhabit?
    This is from CNN.

    February 6, 2004 - President George W. Bush names a seven-member commission to investigate the nation's intelligence operations, specifically to study the information about Iraq
    possessing weapons of mass destruction.
    October 6, 2004 - The final Iraq Survey Group report is released. The report concludes that Saddam Hussein did not possess weapons of mass destruction.
    December 2005 - U.S. inspectors end their search for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
    March 31, 2005 - The Commission on the Intelligence Capabilities of the United States Regarding Weapons of Mass Destruction reports that the intelligence community was "dead wrong" in its assessments of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction capabilities before the U.S. invasion.
    June 29, 2007 - The U.N. Security Council adopts resolution 1762, terminating the United Nations Monitoring Verification and Inspection Commission's (UNMOVIC) mandate.

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    The Cost of Ignoring UN Inspectors: An Unnecessary War with Iraq

    June 29, 2007 - The U.N. Security Council adopts resolution 1762, terminating the United Nations Monitoring Verification and Inspection Commission's (UNMOVIC) mandate.

    Based on more than a hundred visits to suspect sites and private interviews with a number of individual scientists known to have been involved with WMD programs in the past, ElBaradei stated that the IAEA had “to date found no evidence or plausible indication of the revival of a nuclear weapons programme in Iraq” and predicted that the agency should be able to provide that Security Council with an objective and thorough assessment of Iraq’s nuclear related capabilities “in the near future.”
    Blix reported that destruction of Iraq’s al Samoud ballistic missiles, which had exhibited ranges beyond that allowed by the UN, was underway..
    Washington Dismisses the Inspectors’ Findings
    The Bush administration’s response to the inspectors’ reports was swift and negative, because their conclusions contradicted the allegations previously made by the U.S. government – for example, with regard to the 2002 National Intelligence Estimate on Iraqi WMD. There are literally hundreds of pages of documents stating that the UN Inspectors found no WMD at the time that the US attacked Iraqi troops.

    After the defeat of the Iraqi miltary forces no WMD were found in subsequent searches of Iraq, a fact admitted by both the American and British Governments.
     
  6. mcvey

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    "For the United States, the war cost 4,800 fatalities, 32,000 wounded, and hundreds of billions of dollars. As real, but less tangible, the war generated increased hostility among both allies
    and adversaries alike, and diverted resources and attention from the war in Afghanistan. For Iraq, of course, the costs of the invasion and occupation were far greater."



    The US government .The Government of Great Britain,and the CIA admitted that Iraq at the time of the Shock & Awe Attack by the US Military had no WMD


    The Inspector in charge of the UN operation to oversee finding and disposing of WMD , Dr Hans Blick, stated he found no such weapons in over 800 searches.

    Mendoza you are a CLOWN.
     
  7. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNx3xBmtQ00