The Heavyweight division has some serious potential

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  1. lufcrazy

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    When Lewis retired we already had an heir apparent in vitali.

    When vitali retired we had an heir apparent in wlad.

    When wlad retires there is no heir apparent as of yet. That's what makes it exciting, seeing which of the contenders will take the step to champion.
     
  2. Man09

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    Helenius,Solis,Perez,Wawrzyk,Christian Hammer,Kyotaro,Jarrell Miller its a stacked division all prospects should fight eachother and the best should come on top.
     
  3. Mendoza

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  4. Manning

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    Where has this come from, have you got a link to that?



    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7SOCzpaoVs[/ame]

    Medzhidov has already shown he has serious power without the headgear. From 1.56.30 above.
     
  5. Mendoza

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    Below is a thread I started just prior to the 2012 Olympic games. It will give you an idea on the fighters ability and styles:

    Many fans wonder what the heavyweight division will look like once the Klitschkos retire. While Wlad looks like he can stay on top for another 4 years, by 2016 he will be at the end of his career. Fans of heavyweight boxing looking for new talent can always look to the World Championship Amateur Championships, and the Olympics. Most amateurs it takes 3-4 years before they are ready for a world title shot. In other words, by 2016 some of the below names might have worked their way up to a title shot.

    I do believe the overall depth in the 2012 games at Super heavyweight and heavyweight is better than 2008, 2004, 2000, 1996, and even 1992. While I won’t predict there will be someone as good as Lewis or either Klitschko, I can say the 2012 games are teaming with young talent.

    Below is a quick rundown of guys that I think would make good professionals:


    Heavyweight, 91KG.


    Usky. Nation: Ukraine. Age 25 years old. A 6’3” lefty with pound for pound type of skills and very good hand speed, Usky was absolutely robbed in the 2008 games. He won the world championships in 2011. Not a huge puncher, but the skills are there. He will be tough to beat. It only takes 30 seconds of watching this guy to see how good he is. My pick for gold.

    Beterbiev. Nation: Russia. Age 27. 6’ Beterbiev is a true boxer puncher; Beterbiev is a very watchable fighter who can win on points of via stoppage. A former light heavyweight, Beterbiev is only 6’ feet tall. His best chances as a professional looks to be cruiser weight. If Beterbiev is in the opposite bracket of Usky, he should win Bronze or Silver. Gold is not out of the question.


    Hunter. Nation USA. Age 24. 6’2” Hunter, is the son of former professional heavyweight, Mike “ the Bounty “ Hunter. Hunter is fast, and can counter. Hunter wasn’t big or powerful enough to succeed at super heavyweight as the size difference and power difference between 91Kg and 91+Kg can be significant these days. With a good draw, Hunter can win Bronze. For what it’s worth, Hunter is a bit better than past USA heavies and super heavies. I am lisitng him here for that reason even if there might be a better choice.




    Super Heavyweight, 91k+

    This field will be hard to handicap! I can see 4 men winning gold here so I will just list the best.


    Dychko. Nation: Kazakjstan. Age 21. 6’9”. Dychko looks a bit like Vitali Klitshcko with a shaved head. For a guy 6’9”, Dycko has fantastic foot speed. He has the foot quickness of a light weight, and pretty quick hands too. The skills are solid. He can pile up points with his height and reach, hit for power, or counter. He takes a good punch too. Simply stated he’s a fantastic young talent who might be ready to come into his own this summer. Not sure if he would turn professional if he wins gold due to his age.


    Medzhidov. Nation: Born in Russia, fights for Azerbaijan. Age 25. 6’3”. Medzhidov is a brutal looking puncher. When he lands there is a thudding sound like a ferry dock slamming into a dock. How hard does he hit? I think harder than Lewis or Wlad when they were amateurs. When Medzhidov lands his opponent either retreats quickly or is visibly hurt. Medzhidov won the 2011 world amateur championships scoring a few stoppages along the way. He is a little wild, but has the right sort of pressure style, which is complemented by his “ I’m going to take you out mentality. “ His chin appears to be iron, and he has good stamina for a man his size and build. No one will exchange punches willingly with this guy! I hope he goes pro.


    Joshua Nation: Great Brittan. Age 22. 6’6”. Joshua is perhaps the best overall combination of size, speed, power and skills at super heavyweight, however he has been stopped twice before, so his chin is an issue. He’s not a coward or runner. He has show heart. Joshua came out of nowhere and won silver in the 2011 game, getting an easy early draw, and losing in the finals to Medzhidov. He will have the home town advantage in the games. If Joshua fights smart, he can win gold. I think he will turn professional one day. He has had some issues with the law before, though, and needs to mature a bit before turning professional.


    Omarov. Nation: Russia. Age 22. 6’5”. A fast rising talent, Omarov hold recent wins over the young Hrgovic ( who is better than more than half the field here but did not qualify due to the talent level in Europe ) and a Cammarlle ( who won gold in 2008 ). Omarov can box and hit. I have seen him the least of the top 4, but if he puts it all together gold is not out of the question.
     
  6. Vysotsky

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    Hrgovic has as much potential as Medzhidov and is pro ready with this being his 3rd season in WSB and he's only age 20/21 around 6'5 240 with legit power and an iron chin, slightly better than Medzhidov's imo whose is near iron himself.

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    Usyk has phenominal skills and athleticism but whether he can compete against 250lb SHW's remains to be seen. We'll find out in the next couple months as he starts facing them in WSB in 2013.

    Romainian Mihai Nistor is another. Aggressive southpaw swarmer/slugger, very good power and combinations, undersized but uses it to his advantage. He isn't as skilled a boxer as Sultan Ibragimov but he reminds me of him a little when Sultan swarmed and let his combinations go like in the Whittaker fight. He stopped Joshua at the 2011 Euro's and here he is beating up Tony Yoka for 5 rounds only to get robbed.


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    German Erik Pfeifer is another guy who doesn't get mentioned but would make a solid prospect and is in WSB this year. Very well rounded 6'3-6'4 240lbs

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRfXf56CDSU[/ame]



    Beterbiev was in Montreal last week and sounds like he plans on turning pro with either GYM or Interbox (forget which) at LHW.
     
  7. Mendoza

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    Vysotsky, I agree on 90% of what your wrote. Pfeifer would be the 3rd, 4th or 5th best prospect in most Olympic classes, but the depth and talent at 91K+ makes him the 7th or 8th best man in the amateurs today! He could be a regional champion, but I doubt he advances beyond that. What he has going for him is marketing ability.


    Hrgovic has a world of ability but keeps getting edged out in the amateur points system. Why? I think he might lack a little ring generalship. Still Hrgovic has perhaps the best natural ability of the bunch. He is a super heavyweight who can punch, take a punch, in-fight, out fight, and has good speed / athletic ability . IMO the amateur game is hindering his development, he should go pro now, and take his time to work on his craft.

    Nistor is a banger, and with a crowd pleasing style. He’s the David Tua of the bunch. I would like to see him go pro too.

    Usyk if managed correctly can be a pro heavyweight champion, but your right, he won't match up vs. another skilled super heavy. Fans of speedy skilled boxers at heavyweight figure to love Usyk.

    Beterbiev is a future cruiser weight champion. He’s not the next Alexxevv! Beterbiev won’t fall apart after he takes a good punch!
     
  8. cippi

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    alot of good heavies. lets just hope we get sum good match ups. it seems like we will . we got banks vs Mitchell II, i don't kno if mitchell deserves it but it guarantees a fun an excitement through out the duration of the bout. then i hear charr is fighting jan 19 an as long as he wins i think him an chisora will get it on.
     
  9. brnxhands

    brnxhands Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The division isnt as bad as people act. Just the talent has shifted to another location in the world and a lot of people arent familiar with a lot of the talent
     
  10. MaliBua

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    How it can have some potential when the true heavyweight champions of the world are playing ball. The true potential is playin different sport.

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  11. Jack

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    That's not true.

    Judge fighters based on their own ability. How many heavyweights in the past 5 years have had good footwork? How many are agile? How many fight at a very fast past for 12 rounds? Who in the past 5 years has been a proficient body puncher? Judge fighters by their own attributes and you'll see them as the very shallow, predictable fighters that they are. Look at Helenius, Adamek and Dimitrenko. All three have constantly been rated amongst the top 5 in the world for years and yet all three are poor fighters. Povetkin, the third best in the world, is very limited too.

    Aside from that, if it's merely down to an influx of eastern fighters, why are the lighter divisions not full of the same fighters? Eastern Europeans might not be genetically suited to the very light divisions but there are plenty around at welterweight and above, yet only one division is dominated by them. Why? It's because other divisions are strong whereas the heavyweight division isn't.
     
  12. Scar

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    On a serious note, you know the division is **** poor when none of the guys in the list stand a chance against the champions.
     
  13. Jack

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    I think it's a reflection on how bad the current division is when guys like Wilder get fans excited.

    The worst era in heavyweight history, by far. The next era will be better, although that's not exactly hard.
     
  14. REEVO

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    Out of all the names mentioned Fury would be the top contender now.. :lol: ****ing Wilder is ****, so **** the worst heavyweight on the scene at the moment. Can not believe what i saw in his last fight Wilder looked awfull against Price complete garbage.. The KO was a complete car park punch price had a week to move out the way of that...
     
  15. REEVO

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    :lol: :lol: Wilders opposition what a joke fighting a migit sumo man...........