The heavyweight division is straight trash

No there is Wlad and as I have seen very very little of Povetkin I will wont judge him, but the rest are at best very average.
When Matt Skelton wins takes you the distance and wins a about 4 rounds and loses a few that are close affairs you are not good.

Skelton is basically a world title contender who would beat some of the guys who have been champs in the past 2 years and who was not even beaten very convincingly by one of the supposedly good champs in Chagaev. And yet Skelton took up boxing about 6 years ago, is 40 years old and is technically awful.

 

That is one fight Skelton Chagaev that says it all.

Chagaev is meant to be one of the more skilled contenders, a top 5-10.

However he is unable to take out a 40 years club fighter, who has no technical skill and very little experience of boxing.

For Skelton to even be capable of getting a title shot, says alot about British heavyweights, and Chagaevs performance says even more about his status as a top contender and the division in general. The "awkward" argument doesnt sell either.

 

The cruiserweight division is imo one of the top 3 divisions in Boxing.

 

I agree with Sean!

The division is no worse than any other division in boxing. The problem is that the American media is not willing to glamorize the division because most of the top fighters are not native born Americans. However, Klitschko is a dominant champ and would be a formidable opponent Lewis, Tyson, or Holmes.

 

lmao... this sounds like a thread i should have made

 

Povetkin hit Chambers repeatedly with body shots. Body shots are a part of boxing. Chambers just covered his face up "Rope a dope" style in the center of the ring and is probably pissing blood this morning.
As far as the HW division being trash sounds more like typical Soviet envy to me :yep

 

as much as i agree that liakhovich brewster was a great fight, great fights have been few and far between for some time. the bottom line is that there's one elite HW and than a wide gap to the next guys --most of whom would not have been good contenders in other eras.

 

The heavyweight division is straight trash


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Here they go again, thread number six million and one, parroting the official USSA Party Line.

 

:rofl :rofl

This is coming from a PBF fan. Chambers threw more punches than PBF in his last 10 fights.

 

Golota is going to get another title shot!! Enough said.

 

i have seen some very good entertaining heavyweight fights in the last 3 years , trouble is they were not shown on american tv.

as to the wide gap , just a few years ago people on esb were predicting james toney would knock wlad the F/O along with 10 other names.


the current crop are dedicated/hard to beat fighters with set gameplans and usually good enough stamina and focus to carry there plans out.

and the top man currently i agree with diamondave`s remarks.

he would be able and a threat to any top heavy of any era on a head to head basis.

there is absolutly nothing wrong with the abilty and talent of the current crop of fighters.

it could do with a mix up and say 5 top american fighters coming through to give america some intrest.

but flip this arguement on its head.

europeans/africans/asians/australisians/south americas/antarticicans who watch boxing, had only a few sparadic contenders at heavy every now and then yet were still intrested in the heavyweight division.

there are exceptions i see some of my own compriots from the uk not enamoured as well , but having followed heavyweight division through about 30 years this is not the wasteland of talent that it is made out to be.

 

v`s who ?

 

totally agree about wlad (and I'm not a huge fan) and also about it not being a "wasteland." guys like chagaev, ibragimov, povetkin are hard working solid fighters, but imo not elite fighters. sam peter, unless he continues to build on the skills he started to acquire in toney 2, is very limited. valuev could give some champs in any era problems only becaus of his size. maskaev has probably 2 or 3 fights left in him and has always had chin issues and is now past his best. these are the guys after wlad so i don't think it's wrong to say its a fairly weak division. However, I agree that things are improving and there are a lot of b level decent hws out there, with some having potential to be elite. comparing this era to the 90's, 70's, and even 80's, i rate this weakest because there were more elite level guys in those respective eras (yes even the 80's at least the first half and to a lesser extent the latter half).