The Heavyweight Landscape

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  1. Felix Sanchez

    Felix Sanchez Active Member Full Member

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    Undisputed

    Anthony Joshua     (IBF, WBA, WBO) vs Tyson Fury (WBC)
    - Likely two fight deal. Potentially Summer and Winter fights.

    IBF Mandatory

    Filip Hrgovic vs Michael Hunter
    - Fight ordered, but not finalised.

    WBA Mandatory

    Trevor Bryan??
    - Not sure what the situation is with this one. Previous talk also of Helenius in an eliminator.

    WBC Mandatory

    Dillian Whyte back as Interim Champion.
    - Likely he is reinstated as mandatory?

    WBO Mandatory

    Oleksandr Usyk
    - Potential fight vs Joyce with the winner upgraded to WBO Champion following AJ vs Fury I?

    Other Fights

    Efe Ajaba vs Brian Howard
    - 10 Apr - Confirmed.

    Dereck Chisora vs Joseph Parker
    - 1 May - Confirmed.

    Andy Ruiz Jr vs Chris Arreola
    - 1 May - Appears to be confirmed?

    Missing in Action

    Charles Martin
    Deontay Wilder
    Adam Knownacki
    Luis Ortiz

    Stiffer Tests Required

    Murat Gassiev
    Tony Yoka
    Otto Wallin
    Agit Kabayel
    Arslanbek Makhmudov
    Martin Bakole

    Likely Retired / Out of the picture

    Kubrat Pulev
    Alexander Povetkin


    Feel free to add your thoughts and correct anything that is wrong. What fights would you like to see to shape the heavyweight landscape in the run up and following the AJ vs Fury fights?
     
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  2. The Clan

    The Clan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Daniel Dubois - Recovering/Reassessing/Rebuilding
     
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  3. Oreet Cha!

    Oreet Cha! I know what I like and I like what I know. Full Member

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    I like this fight a lot, make it happen.

    IBF Mandatory

    Filip Hrgovic vs Michael Hunter

    - Fight ordered, but not finalised.
     
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  4. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    You added Charles Martin to that list but not Luis Ortiz? :eek:
     
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  5. McGrain

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    Cannot wait for Hrgovic-Hunter. I want that fight to happen please.
     
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  6. Felix Sanchez

    Felix Sanchez Active Member Full Member

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    Well Martin is ranked at number 1 in one of the orgs rankings...

    Ortiz is 42 tomorrow. Or 62 depending upon on how credence you give to his claimed age. Is he going to have a relevant fight again ?
     
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  7. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don't know. If A.J will keep WBO World HW Title belt, then for Usyk fight vs Joyce will not matter much.
    Winner of A.J vs Fury will have WBO World HW Title belt and either : Usyk or Joyce then should defeat current WBO World champion to get belt.
    Unless WBO will have balls to strip A.J from their title before cycle A.J vs Fury will start going on.
     
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  8. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    The heavyweight landscape is Fury on a significantly higher pedestal throwing rocks and shouting dosser at them all.
     
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  9. Felix Sanchez

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    I think Hearn had pretty much resigned himself to the fact that the WBO will become vacant after the first fight. At least that's the impression I have got.
     
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  10. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not likely because 1 st fight winner will be legit WBO World HW Title holder after this fight.
    If A.J will had belt in fight night.
    Then fresh belt winner or boxer who did successful defense fight should be legit entitled to be WBO HW champ.
    Fury now does have WBC World Title?
     
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  11. Felix Sanchez

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    The WBO have already delayed the mandatory. My understanding is that the consensus is the WBO will allow the first AJ vs Fury fight. Then the mandatory needs to happen. Which means the title won't be part of AJ vs Fury II.
     
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  12. Felix Sanchez

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    The WBO will not strip Anthony Joshua of his heavyweight title for taking a unification fight against Tyson Fury.

    Instead, the organization has ordered heavyweight contender Oleksandr Usyk to negotiate a fight with Joe Joyce for the interim title in the next 15 days. The bout must take place within 90 days of the completed agreement.

    Per a WBO letter from attorney Luis Batista Salas reviewed by Pugmire:

    “The winner of the Joshua-Fury bout must face, within 180 days after said fight, the winner of the Usyk-Joyce bout. Non-compliance with this condition will result in the WBO world heavyweight championship title being declared ‘vacant,’ with the interim heavyweight champion being elevated to WBO world-champion status.”

    This was from a couple of months ago. The wording of it isn't great. I think the WBO can order a mandatory take place 180 days after Usyk / Joyce.
     
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  13. Unforgiven

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    I want to see :
    Fury v Joshua (world championship) ..... with rematch IF the fight is close or competitive.

    Ruiz v Wilder (eliminator, winner to face the winner of the above .... and perhaps loser to fight loser of the above)
     
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  14. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If so then how might look A.J vs Fury?
    Likely initially this had been intended for undisputed and we didn't had HW undisputed since Klit era cos brothers didn't fought each other.
    This understable.

    Eddie as usually will wish his hometown backyard clauses and so on.

    Then, what will happen with belt in the end? A.J and Fury will not have rematch clauses ( I doubt that no clauses ) and then two other boxers will continue fight for WBO belt and A.J and Fury will do rematch?
    Like this?

    Why then to remove belt from winner?
     
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  15. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    As long as the 2 fight deal between AJ and Fury does not freeze up the title fights just between them 2 then landscape is good.

    Locking title chances to others has occurred too often in history of the title, sanctioning bodies should be forcing mandatory defences with other fighters.
     
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