The heavyweight lineage if James Jeffries had never existed

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    There has been a lot of debate about Jeffries recently, and somtimes you can best understand what a fighter meant by erasing them from the timeline.

    Lets say that Hank Griffin dosn't beat up one of Jeffries co workers, Jeffries dosn't fight his pro debut to settle the score, and Jeffries dies in obscurity.

    How does the heavyweight lineage unfold between Bob Fitzsimmons winning the title and Marvin Hart winning it?

    I honestly think that Bob Fitzsimmons would have been capable of beating anybody up to the age of agout 40, but he had clearly lost focus when he met Jeffries, and perhaps loosing the title was the kick up the ass he needed?

    Call it.
     
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  2. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I have never rewarded him official recognition as anything but the White Champion.
     
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  3. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Why not?

    Do you think that there was an alternative title, theoretical or otherwise?

    Also, did he not beat the last official coloured heavyweight champion in Peter Jackson?
     
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  4. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Not according to the People's Revolutionary Council ratings.
     
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  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    You seem to have become totaly disallusioned!
     
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  6. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    No, I make allusions all the time. It was the best of Boards; it was the worst of Boards. There, I can't stop making allusions.
     
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  7. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    So on to the initial question?
     
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  8. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    You were a good poster once.

    I can accept being in the minority, so why can't you?
     
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  9. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Fitz keeps it until he fights a young jack johnson about 1902.
     
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  10. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    And Joe Choynski and Marvin Hart have nothing to say about this?
     
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  11. Ringrat

    Ringrat Amateur Full Member

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    No.

    ...
     
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  12. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    :lol: Seamus makes me happy so often these days.
     
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  13. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I see Fitz losing to Corbett in a rematch and them possibly having a 3 bout series. Difficult to tell where the title would progress from there. Would Corbett be defending against Choynski or Sharkey?
     
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  14. guilalah

    guilalah Well-Known Member Full Member

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    My vague recollection (could be wrong) is that Fitzsimmons drew the color line ..... maybe the title goes from Fitzsimmons to Ph. O'Brien to Burns?

    I don't care for Hart's chances against Fitzsimmons.
     
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  15. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sounds about right.
     
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