THE Heavyweight Scene and why it SUCKS..MY THEORY

need to get some good match-ups like tua arreola/peter/haye and ****.

 

It is not about money. It is about kids and role models. It is about kids watching other boxers and saying "I want to be a boxer too". Tyson didn't do much service to boxing by being a nutcase. PPV didn't do much service to boxing because nobody is watching fights except for hardcore fans. on the other hand, Klitschkos are role models. They are famous, rich and educated. They promote the sport. Millions of people in Germany and Eastern Europe watch them fight. It does not take a genius to figure out where the next crop of talented boxers will be coming from.

 

who cares about the lower level

the fact is that the guys ranked

1

2

and

3

are all in europe and wont fight each other for whatever reason lets start with that

 

Europe is just the only place for big men to thrive due to not having huge sports farms plucking them out. Also the fall of the USSR allowed many great athletes to come into the picture.

America, who has the largest cache (historically) of HW talent, starts farming larger kids EARLY. By the time they hit their teens they are specializing. The kids left? Aren't all that talented and let's face it... America has a serious health crisis on its hands in obesity. And the bigger man are even more prone to this.

Also, the Klits are buzzing through guys like hot butter through knives.

 

None of these **** conteders at HW want to fight eachother. Because they know if they got a loss - even if it's in a good fight - they won't get a HW title shot. So they box bums and sooner or later get offered a title shot.

Then they whine they got offered a **** deal because with their **** wins all they qualify for is a voluntary defense because none of these jackasses is willing to work their way towards a mandatory title shot anymore.

When have we seen the last HW eliminator bout? I can't even remember? Was it Thompson - Krasniqi? Chambers - Dimitrenko? Oh wait maybe Chagaev - Meehan?

 

Bull****.

Great footballers, and great boxers are built years before even hitting puberty these days. People with huge, athletic physiques dont just decide at 18 to take up a sport of their choosing.

 

Please.

Boxing appeals to NO ONE raising a child in America after Ali but those with the purist of loves for the sport. To train at a boxing gym costs $100 a month in America. Football is FREE. Basketball is FREE.

You are blind.

 

The big men in the US going into other sports does not hold water. What about the lighter weights? Why don't we dominate at those weights then?

Boxing is a poor man's sport. Always has been and always will be.

American fans are upset because the HWs don't speak like them or look like them now. Get over it guys.

 

Nobody said it was the ONLY reason. It is the MAIN reason. The secondary reason is the decline of boxing in general in America. Most kids can play basketball and football all the way through college due to there being so many levels of the game. You usually don't realize you will only grow up to 5'3 until about high school.

WTF does that have to do with anything? Boxing isn't a poor man's sport in America. It is hard to find a Boxing gym in poor areas. Why? You can't get gym dues to constantly replace equipment. You can't get kids to fork over $150 bucks for gloves, wraps, and shoes.

Why in the hell would we be upset? Boxing is Boxing. You are just delusional as to the reason why HW Boxing in America isn't prominent.

 

True nowadays its the other way around

 

Yeah OK, so the reason the Irish immigrants dominated, then the Italian immigrants dominated, then the Black Americans and now the Hispanic and Eastern Europeans is/was because they had so much money to learn how to fight and buy all that equipment? Then, only after they assimilated and their kids went to college, then became poor, they got out of boxing.

I get it now.

I really am mixed up. And to think I though football equipment, league fees and coaching was expensive when in fact it is less expensive than an inner-city Police Athletic League programs.

Thanks for setting me straight.

 

You are truly blind. A sport's talent level is a direct correlation with the culture's regard of and relationship with the athletes aka patronage. Boxing is not held in high regard in America. Even less so in the community which produced its greatest recent stars. So guess what? America sucks at it.

Your silly race crap completely ignores the FACT that Blacks were in America the whole time and not allowed to compete. Also that Eastern Europeans were placed on the pro scene when Boxing began its decline (late 70's-80's) and when they met the last eras greats (and average Joes) in their twilight EEs LOST. Also how did the Olympics turn out during those stretches where all the communist might was behind Boxing? Right.

So Hispanics and Eastern Europeans are well represented in the pro boxing world now because of completely different reasons. Hispanics due to their size niche. Eastern Europeans due to the Communist sports culture. That is compounded by other cultures NOT investing in the "farming" infrastructure for Boxing. Patronage my friend not being poor. Half of the top names today in boxing weren't poor. If what you say is true the American Olympic program would not be crap because there has to be a poor kid somewhere right?

You are really mixed up. In your fantasy world, finding a qualified boxing coach is easier than finding a football coach. Also, allowing your kids to "be like Ali" never reminds you of that quaking old man. Hell the Detroit, home of Kronk and Steward, PAL doesn't even have a Boxing program you fool! :blood

 

Haye is an exciting fighter but whether he actually wants to make the fights with the klits is another thing, a fight between haye and one of the klits would be potentially very good, a lot better then what we have seen recently anyways, the problem is that noone is capable of putting up a serious fight to the top two guys in the division, if they could be put in danger it would get interesting