The historic significance of Loma Vs. Rigo

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  1. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thanks!

    Loma's side step won't really work against another southpaw, though. Moving to his right like he likes to do would be suicide against Rigo. He'd be walking straight into his left.

    Rigo, on his part, probably have to snap his jab more. He can't use it just to trap the other guys lead hand when he's up against a another southpaw. His left won't be as effective straight down the pipe either.
     
  2. Mendoza

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    There is a clause in the contract that sates Lomo can not be above 138 on fight night.

    I don't think 6-8 pounds will matter much. What will matter is Rigo won't like Lomo's fast pacing, and I have doubts on how well he can take his power. We'll see. The first three rounds will be interesting, but if Rigo changes up to safety first tone, its a sure sign Lomo will get the TKO later or win the decision.

    I'm not a big pound for pound fan as the meaning to me is who is the best overall fighter regardless of weight, and sometimes ignores things such as age when a fighter is past his best. Other times some fighters just can't move up in class, even if they are very dominant in their best weight class.

    Guys at light heavy, seldom do well at cruiser or heavy, but guys at featherweight can move up several weight classes without issues so the smaller guys look better in the debate because they can win more titles is different weight classes.

    I will say this has been an excellent year for boxing even with bad judging. I'm losing interest in the champions in heavyweight division. The division should be the class of the Titans, or opponents with a puncher's chance to take down a Titan, not avoidance of them by the champions. Wilder, Joshua and Parker are fighting aren't even top 5 opponents let alone matching their title vs each other. They fight top 15-50 ranked opponents in title fights.

    #Enough already.
     
  3. Bokaj

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    8 lbs is a bit in those divisions, especially when the fighters are so evenly matched in other areas. But I agree, it isn't a huge deal. The height difference might be of more importance in that case. And Rigo's reach advantage might be the most important of them all, if he gets the kind of fight he wants.

    But still, it will be used to call a Loma win into question. Hell, people say that Pea's wins over Nelson and Chavez aren't all they're cracked up to be due to them coming up a weight class, and still they had more or less identical dimensions in the ring. Rigo will be clearly the smaller fighter against Loma, unlike these guys against Pea.

    And there is the age factor. Perhaps the most important of them all. Rigo hasn't met really elite comp since Donaire so his skills might have eroded substantially without us noticing it since his opposition hasn't been good enough to really test them. In fact he has hardly had any opposition at all for 2,5 years, only 1 round, so we don't have anything to really measure his current status against.

    You used that excuse for Golovkin when he was 34 and matched frequently. It can be used by a great deal more authority for Rigo. Because there is just no way of really knowing how much he has or hasn't lost because of age.
     
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  4. mcvey

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    Loma isnt a puncher,imo.
     
  5. Mendoza

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    He has 7 stoppages in a row, and none of these KO victims were soft touches.

    He's a relentless solid hitter type, who makes grown men without injures quit.
     
  6. mcvey

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    Solid hitter, but not dynamite.
    Six stoppages and 3 of them were retirements.
     
  7. Mendoza

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    Ko's are often tied to class. Lomo has a good KO ratio, and as I said hits hard enough to make grown men throw in the towel.

    I can agree with the solid hitter comment, but the pressure and accuracy he has is nothing short of dynamite.
     
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  8. LD Boxer-Puncher

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    Rigo is the most unfortunate case I've seen in boxing I think. So so avoided and hasn't got the big fights often enough, not through his own fault. I'd love to see him pull it off, but my money is on Lomachenko
     
  9. NoNeck

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    If Rigo dictates the pace to a slow tempo and wins fairly easily, I could see him somehow being discredited by a large contingent of fans. We've seen it with two other undefeated champions of recent times, now retired.
     
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  10. bodhi

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    Sven Ottke and ?
     
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  11. NoNeck

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    Recent as in retired within the last year.
     
  12. LD Boxer-Puncher

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    Presumably Andre Ward
     
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    FMJ too?
     
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