The Holyfield that Lost to Lewis Would Own Heavyweight Division

Just goes to show you how much of a similar shape to the Lewis fight he was in for the Ruiz trilogy as well as the Byrd, Toney and Ibragimov one sided beat downs.

 

Wlad would have big reach and size advantage over Holyfield and also has the tools to keep Holy at distance all night until Evander gets tired. The most probable outcome would either be a wide UD or a late stoppage win for Wlad. It doesn't take much to figure that out. If he can't beat Wlad, he can't own the heavyweight division, simple as that. Other than Wlad, it's also very unlikely that Evander would beat Vitali. Big size/reach advantages for Vitali, plus high workrate and iron chin. I don't see Holyfield getting past that fight either. I assume that you meant on Klitschkos era HW division and not just present day, so I'd include Ibragimov being a very hard task for Holyfield, also any other boxer that is well schooled and not easy to take down. Pulev would also be a stylistic nightmare. There are also a few more boxers I believe would cause Holyfield major problems but I can't really elaborate further.

There you go.

 

I've wrote a couple of guys. Imo Holyfield is not a type of boxer that is able to dominate the division for a longer period. He was often is wars and generally inside fighters just can't keep the longevity especially against pure boxers with good amateur backgrounds. Even if Holy possibly won some belt I don't think that he'd last for many years, there would simply appear someone to outbox him to UD from time to time. By that I mostly meant on Ibragimov type of boxers. I think that he would just outbox Evander. Holy would need to knock him out and it's not easy to do at all due to Ibragimov's movement. Pulev is a different type of boxer than Ibragimov but his style would also be difficult to overcome for Holy. Good jab, good footwork, chin and the way Pulev behaves in ring give the impression that he'd handle good inside fighters or brawlers. Chagaev from his best days was also difficult to hit, plus he was a great amateur. As for Povetkin, I think there would be a war between him and Holyfield. So there's already a couple of names up there. Not saying they would all beat Holyfield but the point is that the Holyfield and similar types of fighters aren't generally capable of lasting long on the top among the boxers that are well schooled to box, especially if they got big amateur experience. That's the main reason the likes of Holyfield or Tyson wouldn't dominate.

 

Even that way past it version of Holyfield would be just as competitve vs a cautious Heavyweight like Wlad.

Lewis and Wlad fight extra cautious to protect from getting their less than average chins cracked.

Vitali would be another story. Vitali imo would outhustle and outwork the version of Holyfield that Lewis faced.

Prime Holyfield however beats all three! :deal

 

In your dreams, maybe. And good power? since when? He's bulked as hulk, but still a small cruiserweight, check his ko ratio!

 

He lost to byrd...

 

The Holyfield that fought Lewis would KO Wlad. Wlad is scarred to death to engage nobodies who are just there for the pay check and make no attempt to make a fight of it, Wlad has never fought anyone like a prime or even slightly past prime Holyfield, no one near by a long way. Wlad is nothing special, infact he's pretty poor, he's just lucky to have his brother fight his rematches for him and otherwise be the best of a bad bunch in what is todays joke of a heavyweight division.

 

That faded Holyfield would undoubtedly be a force during the current division. He'd batter the likes of Haye, Fury, Pulev and Povetkin though he wouldn't have it all his own way as he was sometimes inconsistent and fought to his opponents level.

But he'd struggle to beat Wlad or Vitali. Holyfield always struggled against the bigger heavyweights like Lewis and Bowe.

Yes Holyfield was very competitive in the 2nd fight with Lewis but you can't forget how he was dominated by a more cautious Lewis in the 1st fight. I think Wlad's jab orientated safety first style would see him win a clear decision against an old Holyfield. Vitali being more aggressive would allow Holyfield to have some success but would still lose to Vitali.

 

holyfield was under .500against elite fighters. far over rated.

 

hardly. went 1-2 against massively over rated bowe. 1-1-1 against horrible ruiz. 1-1 against pathetic moorer, etc

 

Holyfield that lost to Lewis would get destroyed, beaten from pillar to post by both K brothers. Even a game David Haye would outpoint him.

 

A shot to pieces 50 year-old Holyfield did just as well against Valuev as Haye. I can sort of understand why people are deluded enough to think the K bros might beat him, but Haye!!!!:rofl

37 year-old Holyfield also went 24 rounds with a motivated, in shape Lewis, that's 18 more than prime Vitali managed against a unmotivated, overweight out of shape Lewis:yep