The HW division: What has changed?

Duh. They're all playing in the NBA and NFL now. Everybody knows that. Those that do not appear to know it are simply in denial, but deep down, they know.

 

You know, some people argue that Lennox Lewis was fat at 256lb

 

Too Tall Jones fought and failed along with many others..............it's not just the size of the Klitschkos, it's their skills and conditioning...........Klitschkos are the very best!!!!!!!

 

He did, got beat by a dwarf.

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The HW division: What has changed?

People's mentality has. Remember, the 80s and 90s were a period of an unprecedented material wealth growth and it correspondingly affected the mentality of Western kids who got far more spoiled and vain than any generation before. The psychological traits that period brought about in youngsters were a recipe for an inevitable decline in fighting spirit and dedication of upcoming boxers in the West.

In Eastern Europe the exact opposite was happening back then. Late 80s and 90s was a period of a great social turmoil with a prevailing 'survival of the strongest' theme which no doubt found its way into young boxers' heads and made them step up to the next level in their performance.

IMHO:deal

 

No, they aren't. It's a bunch of self-comforting lies. It's just that Americans have less of a fighting spirit in them nowadays, they've become much softer and more complacent. A fighter slowly emerges in a kid as he grows up, he doesn't become one when he joins a boxing gym - it's already a manifestation on a resident fighting mentality, which has been on decline in the stagnating West.

 

While I don't think it matters much in regards to boxing...yes, indeed. The USA puts seven times more people behind bars than China. Amnesty regards the US justice system as one of the seven worst in the world in regards to treatmen of mentally ill prisoners, underage prisoners and use of death penalty. The USA is the only country in the world with more prison inmates than farmers.

 

While you are painfully right, we still produce world class athletes as well as any other country in the world. Ours just happen to be in the more lucrative NFL and NBA, as was not the case when boxing ruled in America, several decades ago.

 

Americans ruled the Heavyweight division when not many countries were heavily involved (Eastern Europe weren't at all) Boxing has obviously lost appeal in America but more importantly Eastern Europeans now fight professionally and they clearly have more hunger for it.

How well would past American heavyweights have done if Eastern Europeans had been competing?

 

atsch Ammusing isnt it .

 

The division is only really lacking 2 top american boxers. Look at the rings top 10 from 1973 if you take out ali and foreman

Joe Frazier
Ken Norton
Jerry Quarry
Ron Lyle
Earnie Shavers
Oscar Bonavena
Joe Bugner
Jimmy Ellis
Chuck Wepner

now suddenly 1973 looks like a weak era.

 

Maybe black American men have more freedom now and don't want to fight each other for the white man?