The IBF middleweight title has been on a bum carousel since 2009

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  1. shoe

    shoe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    if Barker knew how to feint once in a while and throw lead straight rights he could've taken out old Sergio. he fought like a bum and was the chicken although Sergio actually looked like one.
     
  2. Koba

    Koba Whimsical Inactivisist Full Member

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    I take the point, but the fact is GGG is still being built. For most of the guys on the IBF carousel Adama would be considered a tough but winnable fight, for GGG it is a letdown, but given he's not really fought anyone that much better except perhaps Macklin it perhaps shouldn't be seen as such. The hype train may or may not be running in front of his abilities but it's certainly ahead of his actual resume.

    Part of the issue, in fact, with getting decent opponents in the ring with GGG is simply that the Geale, Barker, Sturm, Lee level opponents have lucrative, but more importantly winnable, title fights with each other on the carousel. Macklin, who was reasonably considered of a level with these guys was walked through, and his stock has taken a considerable hit as a result. Golovkin was kept away from Sturm for a long time under Universum and has only recently become a big enough draw to even be considered worth the risk.

    FWIW Barker was a better known name than GGG when he fought Martinez in 2011, Macklin was considered top 4 or 5 in 2011, Sturm #2 (and GGG wanted to be fighting these guys back then, specially Sturm).

    In essence, GGG will only become a worthwhile fight for the IBF level scrum (and let's not call them 'bums' or anything remotely similar cos these are the top 10 of the 160 division) if he's able to become lineal champ. Until then, despite all the enthusiasm and promotion within the boxing community he remains simply another beltholder who's only recently become known to the more casual fans who bring in most of the revenue.
     
  3. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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  4. plank46

    plank46 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yep...they aren't black.
     
  5. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    So what unworthy challenger will Sturm fight next?
     
  6. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    On twitter they are saying Sturm is rematching Soliman on May 31st

    The Carousel continues to rotate
     
  7. The Devil

    The Devil Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Who gives a fĂșck what Sturm is doing. The highlight of his career is losing to DLH. Says it all. He'll keep the belt hostage in Germany until he retires, he daren't step foot anywhere else for fear of bumping into the one they call Triple G.
     
  8. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Agree, I just think it's criminal that he holds a title hostage and fights bums.
     
  9. -GhettoWizard-

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    Abraham wasn't special either
     
  10. The Devil

    The Devil Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This is a guy who preyed on a severely injured man in Darren Barker, instead of fighting the one they call Golovkin, despite being offered the fight several times. Sturm has no shame.
     
  11. darryl1914

    darryl1914 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Stop reading, spit out my drink and LMMFAO after this.:rofl:patsch
     
  12. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Arthur Abraham was 30-0-0-0 in Middleweight, 12-0 in IBF 160 lbs

    He was a solid Middleweight champion :smoke

    He only lost when he moved to 168. :conf
     
  13. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Remember Sturm ducked Abraham for years.
     
  14. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    30-0-0-0, 12-0 in IBF 160 title defenses

    Arthur Abraham Middleweight reign was his invincibility era :smoke
     
  15. Xelloss

    Xelloss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    IBO belt already more relevant than IBF at 160. Alphabet title only as relevant as the guy who holds it. To get the IBO belt, you have to beat GGG. To get the IBF belt, you have to get Sturm to actually agree to get in the ring.

    They should just rename the IBF belt to "European champ"