The Idea That Pac Has Become Some Dynamic Boxer

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by acb, Feb 14, 2008.


  1. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I believe that JMM is skillful but after so many rounds of being hit by Pac. Sooner or later he will be KO'd.

    Another question that JMM should consider aside from skills itself is how much can both boxers take the punches? Accumulation of punches? who's body can take more? Pac or JMM?
     
  2. joekirkbycobra

    joekirkbycobra King Of The Ring Full Member

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    jmm has too much ring craft 4 pac
     
  3. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pac is "DYNAMIC" enough to KO JMM. I just don't know if it's vice-versa!
     
  4. reed_man02

    reed_man02 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree. I feel JMM will adjust to pac game plan after a few rounds and start outboxing pac. I cant see pac adjusting to JMM though. I also freel JMM's chins gets underrated by the pac fans simply because Pac was able to drop JMM, even though JMM never appeared to be hurt. After that JMM took pac's punches just fine. I think the fight will look similar to the last eleven rounds to be honest.
     
  5. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac is a Fighting Boxer not a Running or waiting boxer. His profession is in Boxing, he's called a Boxer. He's winning in spectacular way, why did he has to evolve more??? All Pac did in his technique is add that Lethal right hook & add more defensive technique & he's now a complete Boxer.

    Pac is a Dynamic Boxer/Fighter since the start. He's always like that.
     
  6. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He is no where near a complete boxer, and he doesn't have a lethal right hook. You just illustrated exactly why this thread was made.

    Boxer is simply the term used for the sportsman in the ring of this particular sport. He is not a "boxer" in the context in which this discussion is taking place, where we are using the term to describe a fighter with certain textbook boxing skills or qualities as opposed to a brawler, a slugger, or other overall styles that exist within the sport.

    He would need to evolve for the same reason brawlers and sluggers before him did.
     
  7. doknochrisan

    doknochrisan Puncher Full Member

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    "One fisted" or "dynamically evolved", however you look at it, he is P2P no. 2, on a winning streak, and still trains hard for every fight. I wonder how people will call him after he knocks out Marquez on Marso uno.
     
  8. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    KG if you want to practice your Psycho stuff.. I have no time. I can't twist the truth. Dynamic means active, it's there in the Dictionary.
     
  9. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    PacD, if you cannot win an argument, just say so. No reason to convolute the argument. You play at being smart, spouting off definitions, then seem to lack the ability to understand "context".

    I wonder why you have latched onto the literal meaning of the person who started the thread, instead of responding to the actual content. Perhaps you can't. You certainly aren't responding to anything I have said.
     
  10. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i respond to the thread question not in your BS explanation.
     
  11. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You responded to nothing. You removed the threads context in your response purposely because it was not beneficial to your position.

    You have no more time remember? Should I have taken you literal there? Or was that simply your way of getting a point of disgust across (hmmm, see what I did there?)
     
  12. cardstars

    cardstars Gamboa is GOD Full Member

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    I don't mean to jump in, but you MUST understand what acb was talking about when he started this thread. He is simply saying that Pac lacks TECHNICAL boxing skill in the ring, which he certainly does. He is p4p#2 and a great boxer, but he isn't a slick and highly skilled tactician like a Mayweather or Guzman.
     
  13. sandwedge

    sandwedge Member Full Member

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    yup i agree with that guzman v pac is high risk low reward for pac i'd favour guz BTW. Pac v valero in phillpines? Could come off. I'd favour pac.
     
  14. Sting

    Sting Akagami no Shanks Full Member

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    I never really get how some people(not just here but everywhere) would say that Pac has improved on his technicall skills and that he has a good chance of outboxing JMM and winning a decision much less a UD.

    I've always maintained that when the rematch comes, Pac will always fall back to what he's most comfortable with: brawling. The addition of his right hook, the improvement of his feet, body and head movements, being a thinking fighter and his slight improvement in defense DOES NOT translate to him being a great technical boxer or a dynamic boxer. If anything those improvements actually complement his brawling skills or pressuring skills. For before he's more of a one dimensional, come forward type, very agressive brawler. Now, he has sort of become somewhat of a tactical brawler or pressure fighter. And I feel its the style that is very effective against technical boxers like JMM.
     
  15. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    this so called "myth" was perpetuated after the barrera rematch where pacquiao opted to box and be patient instead of his usual devil may care attitude.

    yeah, he is still a slugger and even with the way he fought barrera then, he still uses his come forward tactic by darting in fast then moving out. here you saw a glimpse of the usual pac but with some intent of not letting barrera counter him. some called this being more of a boxer but others labelled it being a tentative pac.

    if pacquiao has modest power in both hands, i would still give him about 30% chance of winning because of his very high workrate and being the faster man. for this rematch, i had it 50-50 and i predict a pacquiao win by decision or a late tko, if not marquez via decision.