The Idiot Acid Test: Who Currently Has The Better Timing - Pacquiao Or Mayweather?

I can't decide (or don't feel like deciding) on this one.

Mayweather needs no explanation.

And there's also a reason why jabs historically have not worked on Pacquiao (he always had his straight left that beats a counter or offensive jab to the punch, and he can also throw the right hand underneath or over the jab as well).

 

Also ,. lol at this half ass interpertation of timing. It was harder for Floyd to TIME Marquez( A clever counterpuncher who has better timing than Pac and showed it in both fights).. Size dont have **** to do with timing(idiots say connect percentage dont...lol). If you have two counterpunchers trying to TIME each others moves, punches, reactions then that is harder to do then punching a guy whos face is right in ****ing front of you to be hit.. (Hatton/Cotto). It is easier to time a fighter who fights flat footed and who is going to stand in front of you. It is harder to time a fighter who is moving or has good defense. Hatton came in face first with this chin in the air. That dont have **** to do with Pac's timing. Cotto fought off the back foot or bulldozed in .. he is not quick on his feet and he dont have good head movement and is not hard to find... So I dont get the ****ing argument. If Marquez was easier to TIME..lol then Pac would of hit him a lot more.. And yes.. size dont have **** to do with timing.

 

This is by far the best post / analysis i've read for today. Eloquent and concise. :good

 

To end this bull**** thread. Pac's timing improved b/c of the opponents he faced... ALL of which are fairly easy to land on and one not only bull rushed in .. he put not one ounce of effort in defense and literally walked into punches eagerly.

 

Don't be silly. Or probably, you don't get it. Slowness (marquez is big in size) of an opponent in terms of movement and relfex due to the extra 20 lbs, has everything to do with TIME (making it easier for the aggressor).

 

appreciate it sir

 

Marquez was no slower in that fight than in any fight. Marquez is not a fast fighter and never was. I DARE you to post a fight of Marquez showing this so called blazing speed his lost. :rofl Marquez had his same reflexes as he always had and he landed some good timed shots on Floyd despite all the other chips stacked against him. That dont mean Floyd's defense is leaking.. it just means JMM has great timing as he always had. This is just ******* bull**** excuse making. And Floyd was not the aggressor in the fight was what the **** are you talking about?


And just to add more insult to your injury what shits on your theory even more so is the fact that timing has to do with distance.. space and guess what.. .. how stationary your opponent is.. Hatton was standing right in front of Pac hands at his waist ... not even jabbing.. chin in the air. It dont take GREAT timing to crack a fighter who is giving you the opening.. So now punching something that aint moving is easier than someone who actually uses head movement and distance(marquez)..

 

compubox is not exactly accurate but i would hold the 49% punch connect accuracy of pacquiao over a miguel cotto at welter than the 64% punch connect accuracy of floyd over marquez at welter to a much higher regards.

 

I stopped there. He can't barely move, the reflex difference is staggeringly noticeable. I'm surprised this is even debatable in your eyes.

I hereby procclaim to myself that i will skip everything you posted. You lost credibility of having reason or judgement due to nuthuggery.

 

Bull****.. Cotto has never been hard to hit.

 

the jmm who fought pacquiao and barrera was much faster than a bloated jmm version at welter. jmm even slowed down when he went from 130 to 135 most probabaly because of a combination of age, wear and tear and added mass. i'm amazed you will argue this to build floyd's performance over him.

 

That is ******* bull****. PROVE IT *****. I challenge you and all of you pacwhores to post Marquez/Mayweather fight and ANY Marquez fight back to 130 and show me the drop in speed. If you actually analyze the **** you would see there was no speed lost its just Mayweather is that much quicker. Show and prove *****...lol

 

Thats not the point. I actually watched the fights.. you just say that **** b/c he came in 10 pounds. (not ****ing 20 dumb asses) over his usual fighting weight. And I seen no big loss in hand speed or even foot speed(Marquez never had great foot speed). I watched the Chris John fight.. Chris John beat Marquez to the punch every time and he is not even lightning fast as say Pac. You whores just say ****. You dont know what the **** you are talking about ever. Just like I just proved your whole concept of timing to be bull****.

 

OK. Read my question again or did you even read it the first time. Would it have helped if I capitalized THE? And putting aside whether or not timing is about punching only, Paul Williams connect rate went from the low 20% range to the mid 30% range against Martinez. Does that mean Williams was 'timing' Martinez better than other opponents? Or did it mean Martinez didn't care if Paul Williams landed arm punches? Over half the people on this board thinks Martinez is a slick boxer that will school Pavlik, yet Williams landed a watermark high percentage against him. Get my drift?

 

That just means Martinez defense is not that great. But like I said previous a fighter with good timing(not PW) will not land 20% of his punches unless he is facing a defensive guru. I take in consideration the opponent.