Just proved that Pavlik is not as great as people were saying. JC would abuse him. Pavlik if the Jeff Lacy of today in my opinion
the people saying that dumb **** are only showing a lot about themselves.... nothing more nothing less.
not only would pavlik beat lacy head to head, hes beaten better fighters/has a better resume then jeff... imo its no comparison.
I don;t think pavlik is a bum or was over rated. When you defeat the undisputed middleweifht champ..twice you cannot be either. Pavlik ran into a style matchup that made him look bad, really bad it can happen. Look at Sonny Liston when he fought Ali. Those thinking at AA is going to be some kinda of the same thing as hopkins are high on something good:rasta Miranda gave AA plenty of fight and pavlik is much better than Miranda. Don't be surprised to see Pavlik rebound and learn from this mistake. To do this he needs a better trainer and careful matchmaking for his next few fights.
Pavlik is no bum, his inexperience got exposed by one today's smartest and most seasoned fighters. Pavlik will learn from this and I look forward to seeing him fight again.
Its not a sure thing that Abraham gets through pavlik. I seen too many things that abraham does that scares me when hes in the ring with the tall and strong Pavlik. When he laid on the ropes and put up that Winky defense against miranda i believe that would be hell of a mistake against pavlik. Pavlik vs calz isnt predetermined because of hop performance either cause hop defense of style is not even close to the style of calzaghes in which he is more of a slap attack(with *GREAT FAST MOVEMENT*) fighter who out works but not necessaril outlands his opponent. Hops tired cause of his old age but a guy like Pavlik wont get tired and Calz isnt a type of fighter who backpeddles so people stop giving bernards victory to joe *PLEASE*!!!!!!!!
some people will say "why are you saying bernard is not still a prime fighter because he beat the hell out of pavlik?" well im glad you ask me that. Pavlik is bernards easiest fight to date and the slowest guy bernard has ever fought. When bernard fought joe he was fighting like the hop that fought echols the first time with tremendous pressure from both fighters(echols and joe) made hop resort to a defensive mind set. In hops prime he never got tired so that style of fight was nothing to him but against calz at the age of 43 age was catching up to him. Hops didnt even throw that many punches and not counting the fact that he really didnt get hit with anything significant until about round nine. People just do your research and stop being so biased to your home town fighter
It will be funny when Kessler gets his hands on him, or maybe Clinton Woods could reignite his career off this bum, they are of equal abilities. Yes, Pavlik is a bum, I said it before the fight, he is an average fighter with a hard punch, no foot movement and no head movement, and to be compared with Calzaghe was infuriating.
ha ha ha, you know what... Pavlik didn't do a lot wrong , he was up against someone who had set his mind in concrete that he was going to go back in time 15 years and show how great he could still be.. Kelly belongs in all honesty at Middleweight , in the same way Hatton had no real business at Welterweight and is a great light welterweight.. Hopkins was just in a league of his own last night , absolutely a joy to watch....... Its the kind of fight Hopkins should go out on... a stunner..... Pavlik was by no means exposed , he showed me that he is a lot more than a flash in the pan against Hopkins , a lot lesser men would have surrendered earlier and lost desire.. Kelly is the real deal in another division, and is to be commended for taking the fight the distance against a living ledgend.......
I wouldn't expect anything less from such a group of immature, know it all, assholes. Pity this board has gone so far downhill in quality posters....
Pavlik was exposed as a guy who should not be fighting above 160 lbs, in my opinion. And I'm a huge Pavlik fan. He looked slow in Taylor II, and last night he looked pathetic. It was Ricky Hatton-PBF all over again, and it's time for Pavlik to get back to MW.