Its such a myth that if your short at the weight that you cant box with the elusive hands down low style of the ingles. For a example they had: Prince Naseem Hamed 5ft 3ins and fought at Featherweight 9stone Jon Thaxton 5ft 6ins fought at Lightweight 9stone 9lbs Junoir Witter 5ft 7ins boxes currently at Welterweight 10 stone 7lbs Kid Galahad 5ft 4ins boxes at 122lbs Super-Bantamweight So its not true that all shorter boxers have to be tucked up like tyson,even Kell Brook at 5ft 8ins is not massive at welterweight nor was ryan rhodes at Light-Middle,obv it can work too if ur taller for example the ingle style works well for Richard Towers Ali Shah and Paul David but i am begining to think the Ingles are legends.
Its much easier if your taller because the style is more suited to people who dont need to get in close but im sure theres many short fighters with fast reflexes who could successfully use the style
Yeah but can you name one tall boxer from the ingle stable thats really sucseeded, Pele reid was a disaster.
Naz made the ingle style what it was, its said that bomber graham origionally brough the style over to sheffield from his old gym in knottingham, ingle only taught bomber grahams style from then on, theory is its not even ingles style at all. you could have given naz any failure of a style to work with and he would have done well because he was a great fighter, there are in my opinion better trainers in sheffield with much greater records than the ingles. ultimately i think its the ''Ingle style'' that cost naz the world.
Well hes just retired a few week back actually but Howard Rainey has a solid record as a pro trainer.
Yeah i read a book about him and i am friends with him on facebook but some of his training methods seem quite different but i dont know alot about any fighters he has trained to be honest.
Howard Rainey is an absolute legend. Colin Mcmillan, Paul Ryan, Scott Welch, Cornielius Carr, Clinton Woods, had a hand with tons of others too. I've learned loads about coaching from howard. His a great teacher.
I have been researching the Ingle style a bit. I call the Ingle boxing style, the English Style. In Flashy's words "not cocky but *confident*". Brendan Ingle in two interviews (this and another) This content is protected This content is protected talks about walking to a stately home Wentoworth (Wood)house, a massive stately home in the countryside near to Sheffield https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wentworth_Woodhouse and being amazed at the English, that nation of people that had made an empire of 1/3 of the world (for 800 years - a bit of an exaggeration), and perhaps marveled at the pure ambition and confidence. He also how, while boxing began in England, the English, like in football (soccer) no longer won, and that he wanted to change that. In other words he seemed to be saying that he taught the English boxers to be English again. So While the style originated in Herol Bomber Graham in terms of its arrival at Ingle's gym, from a gym in Nottingham, perhaps it was in truth, or at least in Brendan Ingle's mind, the resurrection of the confident-in-extremis, I-am-going-to-build-myself-a-stately home, English style. The Herol-Ingle style seems to me to look a bit like a old boxing engraving, English, fisticuffs style. See below (Google image search for old boxing engraving) https://www.google.co.jp/search?q=o...ihxpvUAhVIp5QKHWASBrwQsAQIJg&biw=1280&bih=818 And if done well, it can work well against any kind of fighter. That which I am calling "English Style" may originate in the 18th century Polish Jewish English boxer who revolutionized boxing, Daniel Mendoza. He was small but beat bigger men. He is on the left in this photo https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8a/The_famous_battle_between_Richard_Humphreys_and_Daniel_Mendoza...'_(Richard_Humphries;_Daniel_Mendoza)_by_Samuel_William_Fores.jpg compare Naseem Hamed https://jp.pinterest.com/pin/491947959280597827/ Wikipedia says "Before Mendoza, boxers generally stood still and merely swapped punches. Mendoza's style consisted of more than simply battering opponents; his "scientific style" included much defensive movement. He developed an entirely new style of boxing, incorporating defensive strategies, such as what he called "side-stepping", moving around, ducking, blocking, and, all in all, avoiding punches." I think that the Mendoza-Herol-Ingle-Hadem "English Style" is very much about avoiding rather than blocking punches. Mendoza recommends chin height hands. Here is is book written in 1792 http://hroarr.com/manuals/boxing-pugilism/Mendoza - The Art of Boxing.pdf# So in that sense, it is not a "confident" style buy a defensive style where defense depends upon evasion rather than blocking. Daniel Medoza writes back in 1792 "It is always better to avoid a blow by throwing the head and body back, at the same time covering the pit of the stomach, than attempt to parry it." (Medonza, 1792, p.3) But anyway, I think that Ingle Style is a sort of return to an older style of English (and Jewish Portuguese) boxing.
