Since there has been a lot of discussion recently about Les Darcy’s thwarted attempt to invade the United States I thought it was time for a thread about another antipodean invasion. Australia In the late 19th century Australia had a thriving boxing culture and the Australian champion Larry Folley set up a boxing school in collaboration with the former world champion Jem Mace. While their efforts initially resulted in fiascos such as Herbert Slade (the Maori) who unsuccessfully challenged John L Sullivan for the title it ultimately produced a generation of great fighters. This content is protected Larry Folley America For most of the 19th century American boxing had been dominated by British or Irish fighters. Very few of the American bare-knuckle champions of this century were born in America. American boxing was now decisively asserting itself in the era of the great Jawn L Sullivan with a new generation of American fighters coming to the fore. It caused alarm in some quarters when Folley and Mace’s Australian born and trained fighters arrived on the scene and started taking over many of the key divisions. At one point the contemporary press said that the Australian based fighters were on the cusp of taking over all the key divisions. So what was the fuss about division by division? Featherweight This content is protected Torpedo Billy Murphy defeats Ike Weir to establish himself as first champion of the fledgling featherweight division. This content is protected Murphy later looses his title to another antipodean in Young Griffo, who would go on to pose a serious threat to the reigning champions at lightweight and welterweight. Middleweight This content is protected Bob Fitzsimmons shocks America by defeating the popular champion “Nonpareil” Jack Dempsey, who had been thought unbeatable in some quarters. Although Irish born Dempsey was a national superstar. Once Fitzsimmons settled into his throne, the two middleweights thought to be best apart from himself were Jim Hall and Dam Creedon. Both from Australia. Heavyweight This content is protected Although he never fought for the title Peter Jackson gained legendary status and was thought by many of the period to be the greatest heavyweight of all time. He was the outstanding challenger for the title under John L Sullivan and Jim Corbett yet he never got a title shot. The talk in the press was often about what would happen if Jackson was given his title fight. This content is protected Frank Slavin fell under the shadow of Peter Jackson but he is a might have been in his own right. He was a wrecking machine who would have been a constant hammer hanging over the head of the champion if Jackson had not bee around. And then Bob Fitzsimmons wins the heavyweioght championship While many of these fighters were not born in Australia they were coming out of a single training school in that country very rapidly and this prompted talk in the press of an invasion from down under.
Mace was a pioneer; Britain had stopped boxing as a mainstream sport by the 1870's; by the 1880's the authorities had clamped down on the sport in the USA, so going to Australia and helping out his friend and former sparring partner, Foley, in the only boom country of the sport made sense, dollars and sense, which Mace really, really needed by then! Because these fighters could actually fight with little threat of arrest and get expert training from Foley and Mace, they did eventually become truly world class and for a little period at the turn of the 20th century, Australia really was the centre of the fistic universe.
I heard Ike Weir was a real card!!! Wasnt he FIRST athlete to somersault in Ring after WINNING!!!! He was aacrobat I believe??
I am convinced that America became the worlds premier boxing nation because unlike Britain it absorbed the best elements that came from outside.
Very hard to argue that point Janitor... another reason may be a very simple one, which must be acknowledged. Upon any 'world title claimant' leaving the shores of the U.S.A, the title was basically open to any man worthy of contention in the States at the time. Hence, Billy Murphy was no longer recongnised as "champion" after sailing for Australia. The title being suggested as 'vacated' due to Murphy sailing. This, intern became circumstancial in the recognition of 'Young' Griffo being recognised at any stage of his career, as the legitimate World F/W champion. Something of a disgrace in my view. Without the diplomacy of Nat Fleischer, both Griffo and Darcy would still be considered contenders. Both men become recognised as Champs, whilst Nat was in Australia in the 50's. Pardon my conjecture Janitor, I do happen to find the U.S.A become the MECCA of boxing via public ignorance, and the unwillingness to accept any fighter away from there, as truly worthy. Regardless of a title holder, having been triumphed over, whilst abroad. Regardless, there supply of class fighters definately seeked their fortunes there, thus ensuring a great wealth of history, and a platform for any fighter to work from.
and don't forget the great australian contender bill squires, fought for the heavyweight title several times.
Which is shocking, Squires was a dog, and Burns grossly underrated and subsequently overrated (for the Johnson fight). Watching that fight (Burns/SquiresI), makes me think I could of been .500 against Squires opponents, pre Burns. Interesting too, that the tape I have states Squires is undefeated going in, and with a 30 odd and 0 record.... It seems not to be the case. Terrible as well that Bill got two more title shots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Squires was a big draw in his home country. Sort of the Frank Bruno of his era. He could always pack out a stadium in his home country and bring in the dough. It wasnt just Burns who wanted to fight him. Jeffries and Johnson were looking for a peice of the action also. Burns was nothing if not a smatr business man. Incidentaly Burns looks totaly badass disposing of Squires.
Yes, but them Aussies were suckers, OK fight one could go down as a fluke, but the rematch showed it was not; the third fight, well.... Even us Brits gave up on Frank, I was mortified when he beat McCall, he needed to lose, that win ruined his legacy!!!!
My feelings exactly. I was the only person in my class who actualy predicted that Mike Tyson would beat him.
I was the only one in the office who picked Frank..... But got some pride back picking Evander at 24/1 over Tyson; but blew it again picking Golota over Lennox.:-(