The Iron Man v Iron MIke

Yes you are correct,Tyson's explosiveness would have to be harvested with care.
You could say that tugging and mauling with larger guys over 20/25rds would have knackered Tyson to the point of exhaustion.

It might even have rendered him vulnerable to a stoppage himself.

I was just thinking out loud, presenting alternative endings to myself really.That's how I arrive at my somewhat muddled conclusions.

 

Do you think Jack Finnegan, or Jack Munroe would be competitive with David Haye?
There are quite a few on here, who will tell you that Jeffries would not be.

 

It all started innocently enough, an exhibition contest between the reigning Heavyweight Champion of the World and former Heavyweight Champion, Robert Fitzsimmons who were touring together in the Mid West . As part of the show, Jeffries issued the standard challenge to the crowd, offering $500 to any man who could stay four rounds with him. An employee of the local Anaconda mine named Jack Munroe came forward. Although out weighed by some forty pounds Munroe prove quick and evasive, to the degree that he clearly out pointed the Champion in the first two rounds. An angry Jeffries came out for round three and managed to knock Munroe down three times, but come the end of the appointed four rounds Jack Munroe was still standing and had won the challenge and $500 of the Champion's money. But then, the trouble began in earnest, local referee Duncan McDonald allowed that not only was Jack Munroe entitled to the $500, but that he had in fact won the fight! Jeffries was incensed and what folllowed was two years of press build-up, two cancelled fight dates, a knockout of Peter Maher and a fight to draw with Jack Sharkey featuring the miner Munroe and finally...
[SIZE=+1]James J. Jeffries[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=+1]Jack Munroe[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]World's Heavyweight Championship[/SIZE]​

Billy Madden, Ruhlin's manager threw in the sponge between the 5th and 6th rds .​

I was referring to the men Jeffries faced in his proper career , ie before Johnson who beat him like he was his Daddy.In that I was correct,Ruhlin was the ONLY 200 pounder Jeffries fought.Ruhlin weighed 200lbs for Jeffries Jeffries fought NO ONE OVER THAT WEIGHT.​

Jackson was alcoholic and tubercular all but 37 years old ,and had not fought in 3 years ,where is the basis for his "good form"?

Munroe is describe as being 40lbs LIGHTER than Jeffries for their exhibition bout ,do you think he added 40 lbs between their fights? ​

Boxrec gives Munroe's weight for the Maher fight as 190lbs is the wrong too?

The Maher fight was only 8 months earlier.

CORRECTION TO THE ABOVE


Done some more digging,on Munroe's weight for the Jeffries fight, found this.

Munroe weighs 210, and he is a splendid
specimen of physical vigor, having not
one ounce of superfluous flesh. His legs
and thighs are as large as those of Jeffries,
but in chest measurement and arm he is
smaller than the champion.
Jeffries seconds were Billy Delaney, Jack
Jeffries, Joe Kennedy and Jimmy Britt.
Behind Munroe were Kid McCoy, Tim
McGrath, Twin Sullivan, Frank McDonald
and Harry Foley.

This was taken from a blow by blow account of the fight ,as reported in the New York Sun.
Aug 27th 1904. The weight given for Munroe is clearly 210lbs ,I accept this and say I was
WRONG in my contention that Munroe scaled 186lbs for the fight

It is strange that Munroe was reported to be in excellent condition ,yet only 8 months previously he ,according to Box rec weighed 190lbs for hs fight with Maher .
Perhaps both weights given by Box rec are incorrect?.

Nevertheless I beleive my original weight was incorrect and MENDOZA'S was CORRECT. :good

I thought about erasing my earlier error but thought it would seem like I was trying to deny making it, so I just posted a correction below it.
SO TO ENCAPSULE MY CORRECTION JEFFRIES FOUGHT ONE FIGHTER OVER 200LBS, BEFORE HIS COMEBACK AGAINST JOHNSON.

 

And I pointed out that the difference between the men Tyson failed to stop and those that went 20 and 25 rds with Jeffries was ,in some cases 9 inches in height and 60lbs + in weight, also that the men Tyson fought all fought defensively,ie to survive.
Therefore, using Tyson as an analogy does not work.

 

Thank you you are correct, but Mendoza ,who quotes this book at every opportunity will not accept it.
Not that it really matters ,my point to Boilermaker was that he asserted Ruhlin was one of the 5 opponents kod inside 4 rds by Jeffries ,when he patently was not ,his corner retired him between the 5th and 6th rds.
In fact NONE of the men Boilermaker named were kod unconscious Goddard , Munroe,Everett, Jackson ,were all tkod,and Ruhlin, retired by his corner.
Goddard had lost his last 2 fights one to Van Buskirk ,the other, a clean ko to Sharkey.
He had been stopped twice before, so it was not a unique occurrence..

 

Haye would be heavier than anyone Jeffries fought at 217 lbs and at 6' 3' as tall as any.I think he would ko Munroe, he stunned a 316lbs Valuev in the last round of their fight, he has the power to stop Munroe imo.