The 'Is Bivol is ducking Benavidez' thread

Beterbiev and Bivol have a long history , it's a legacy fight not a money fight, to show definitively who the better man is. Beterbiev bodies Benavidez

 

Yes such a long history, avoided fighting each other for 8 years.

 

Goes back to their amateur days , it's a long history.

 

Then why did they wait 8 years to unify?

 

Combination boxing politics, Beterbievs injuries and promotional disputes. Not ideal, and would have loved to see the fight years ago but it is what it is. Either way, opting to fight Beterbiev instead of Benavídez isn't a duck. I personally think Bivol is 2-0, and if that was the case id be more inclined to agree that its a duck, taking less money to fight someone you've already beaten,but when it's 1-1, both close fights, between you and a rival stretching back to your youth, and you both established yourselves as the two best in the same division... Yeah, that needs settling.

I wanna see the winner v Benavídez ,but I can't call this a duck

 

Bivol and Beterbiev are 1-1. Their rivalry is longer than Benavidez´s stay at 175. And mind you, Benavidez has only beaten at 175 a retired Gvozdyk and fellow 168lb contender David Morrell.

Saying that this is ducking is just stupid. I ****ing hate boxing fans sometimes.

 

Yeah I don't think you understand anything about boxing purses or empirical facts. WBC man claiming 8 million was offered is not something that is empirical, that is a personal anecdote that hasn't been verified in the slightest.
Boxers get paid a guarantee and then bonuses based on views. You're dreaming if you think that Bivol made less than $10 mill for Beterbiev 2 and that he won't make the same or more for number 3. Do you know what the guarantee is for Beterbiev 3, have you seen the contract? No? I'm guessing Turki has made it lucrative enough on top of all the other reasons for Bivol to prefer the fight. Try again, and this time have a point without the attempted insults.

Here's a head scratcher for you. Why is very honest WBC man making those claims, what do you think his motive might be? What is his nationality? What do you know about taxes in Saudi Arabia compared to the US? Very interesting questions.

Here's another one. Do you think Bivol won't have the opportunity to fight Benavidez in the future? Who do you think can wait longer, Benavidez or Beterbiev? Do you think a fight for undisputed with different fighters holding belts is somehow going to be less lucrative? I think you might be new to boxing.

 

You sound like you might be new to boxing.

 

Incorrect. Suliaman is making an empirical claim that can be proven or disproven with evidence. Looks like Hearn just confirmed that 8m was genuine in that video above.

You like to speculate I don't. Beterbiev Callum smith went to a purse bid of 2 million last year. Beterbiev got 1.2m of that, so that was his market value, yet you seem to think Turki just showed and paid him almost 10 times that amount. That does not make sense, but 2.7m does sense.

Why would I do random speculation like that? Why would I assume he has some dodgy motive at all rather than being honest and spitting facts? eddie hearn just confirmed the 8m offer was legit. I guess suliamans agenda was just honesty.

 

Wow, looks like everybody is scared of Benavidez. Boogy man of boxing.

 

Yeah some people are just full of hate,,,,,

 

WBC man is talking complete nonsense. I asked you those questions so you could consider the bias and dishonesty of your source. Talk about empirical as much as you want, more reliable sources claim differently than the WBC man and common sense should tell you that Bivol earned a lot more than $3 mill.

I have no idea why you have pivoted to talking about Beterbiev's earnings, and why you're talking about his market value against Callum Smith. I believe the $8 million dollar offer part of course. That's not the point.

 

This sort of talk just makes people respect Benavidez leas. No one at light heavyweight is scared of him. To claim that Bivol or Beterbiev would ever be scared of an opponent after they've fought each other twice, it's just embarrassing for the person saying it. You can talk about Canelo being reluctant to face Benavidez, but even then it's clear because Benavidez has been talking so much Canelo left him out of the sweepstakes. Not because he's a scary fighter. Canelo is known to punish people he feels to have insulted him. You can only call out people when you have something to offer them, otherwise it's just posturing.

 

That is very true because even David Benavidez to be fair does not accept Bivol is ducking. Canelo is clearly ducking David Benavidez that much is clear. Bivol had a choice to make for similarly lucrative fights with either Benavidez or Beterbiev and he is choosing the trilogy match for obvious reasons. Yes Benavidez deserves a title shot as well which is long overdue at either Super Middleweight or Light Heavyweight. I have every confidence that Bivol will win trilogy match against Beterbiev and Benavidez will defend his title successfully against Callum Smith and they will fight next year in an undisputed fight.