The Issue Pacman All Time.

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  1. smitty_son408

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  2. Silver

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    you coulndt be more right. the problem with people here is that

    a. they dont know their boxing history, they are ignorant of alot of the fighters in the past

    b. they are simply a fan of one fighter.

    c. both.

    as for pac being top 20, imo, there no clear evidence he even better then then best p4p fighter of the past 20 yrs., pernell whitaker. and if he loses to either mayweather or mosley, then he not better then either of those guys either.
     
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  3. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    exactly...most likely I think its the B option...Whitaker is and should be higher all-time and is a more complete fighter....no one today is top 20
     
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  4. crimson

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    Let me ask you and others a question -

    when you guys critique modern fighters about the level of competition - do you the same for classic fighters (or basically anyone before 1986 or so)?

    Seriously. Many here will say Pac's opponent is old or shot AFTER 1 defeat. SRR, SRL, and many of the classics fought guys with 3, 4, even 10 defeats. I am not saying those wins are not legit but do you guys use the same standards and scale? This goes for PBF, Oscar, Lewis, etc.

    It is amazing that people will call some one old at 30, shot after 1 defeat, and a has been after 30 fights. While classic fighter crush cans that is 38+ year old , win a third of their wins with fighter with DOUBLE DIGIT defeats - some of them with LOSING records during near their prime!!!

    If i use your standard you could make an argument for about 1/3 of SRR's wins are not being that good. When was LaMotta shot? After the 2nd, 3rd or 4th beating he took from SRR?

    Seriously. Stop micro analyzing modern fighters competition level if you are not going to do the same for the classics you are going to compare them to.
     
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  5. BrooklynMumin

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    I hope this is not in order, its just that you have Pernell Whitaker above Joe Louis and Archie Moore:nono:think
     
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  6. Kush

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  7. Boom_Boom

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    garbage list from a garbage poster
     
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  8. EpsilonAxis

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    Has to be top 20 for sure.
     
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  9. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good list:good
     
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  10. davebenoit

    davebenoit Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No mas, no mas Duran should not be there. Sugar Ray Leonard should be rated higher than Duran.
     
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