The jab: Ike Quartey and Joe Calzaghe

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by horst, Jan 23, 2011.


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  1. horst

    horst Guest

    I'm making this thread to see where most people stand on this issue, which has been the subject of a debate between myself and another poster.


    Although I am not a fan of Joe Calzaghe's abilities, I am well aware of his strengths, you don't unify a division and become the top supermiddleweight of your era without having strengths. For Joe, I would say these were his exceptional handspeed, outstanding stamina, a good chin, good adaptability and variety at his peak, and a strong will to win.

    However, having a great jab is not something I'd ever think to attribute to him. A decent jab yes, possibly even a good jab, but the other poster I was discussing this with, "BlackBrenny", says that Calzaghe has:

    "one of the greatest southpaw jabs of all-time".


    I'm puzzled by this, because I don't even think hardcore Calzaghe fans think of Joe as having an ATG jab, I've never heard anyone else say this (not in the media nor on here) - is this a common belief?

    This guy also said that Joe Calzaghe had a superior jab to Ike Quartey, which I find very strange.


    :huh:huh:huh



    Quartey has one of the best jabs I've ever seen in my life. His performance against Jung Oh Park in '95 was particularly magnificent in this regard:


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf8MPeGUXBA[/ame]


    What do you guys think to these two questions:

    - Does Calzaghe have an ATG jab, or are his strengths in other areas?

    - Who has the better jab between Quartey and Calzaghe?

    :bbb



    My own opinion on the matter is that "BlackBrenny" should study this video: :lol:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHNZDoSgJ1g&feature=fvw[/ame]
     
    horst, Jan 23, 2011
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  2. bxrfan

    bxrfan Sizzle Full Member

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    Quartey is known for his jab, Calzaghe's known for his slaps
     
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  3. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    Calzaghe had a good weak flicker jab I guess but Quartey is probably the best I've ever seen next to Holmes much better then Calzaghe's
     
    tommygun711, Jan 23, 2011
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  4. Tricks77

    Tricks77 Sergio By God Martinez Full Member

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    Quartey had one of the best jabs in recent boxing history. Calzaghe hardly ever utilized his jab and instead counter-punched and flurried. This is like comparing Joe Frazier's left hook to Zuri Lawrence's.
     
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  5. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe had a jab?
     
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  6. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Calzaghe had an excellent double jab. You don't win fights only being able to use one hand like he did, if you don't have a great jab. Calzaghe was more of an inside fighter though.
     
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  7. horst

    horst Guest

    This. Exactly this. :deal



    I don't see it as a fair comparison, as Quartey basically won fights using his jab, and Calzaghe didn't even try to.

    But that twat did say Calzaghe's was superior, so I had to throw it out there and see what the people thought. :nut
     
    horst, Jan 23, 2011
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  8. horst

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    It wasn't a patch on Quartey's though, no matter which way you look at it. Quartey's jab was phenomenal.
     
    horst, Jan 23, 2011
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  9. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Ike Quartey's Jab was = to a reg fighters "Straight punch"
    Calzaghe used his as to what it is, a set-up shot.
     
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  10. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm guessing he's new to boxing and a Calzaghe fan
     
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  11. horst

    horst Guest

    I think so. :good
     
    horst, Jan 23, 2011
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  12. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think you are being very unfair, how about another poll on handspeed and see the results.
     
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  13. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    My Vote: Calz.
     
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  14. JoeLaTurkey

    JoeLaTurkey Active Member Full Member

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    Ike gets my vote in the jab department. He could beat up a guy with nothing but.
     
    JoeLaTurkey, Jan 23, 2011
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  15. 46and0

    46and0 It's irrefutable. Full Member

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    Ask Kessler if Zaggers had a great jab.:deal
     
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