Hey boxing peoples, wondering what you think about the jab? I think it is overlooked by a lot of fighters and especially fight fans. IMO opinion the jab is the most versatile, and therefore most critical, punch in the arsenal. You can use it to stun, blind, pressure, distance or setup, and of course you can throw it heavy. Its both an offensive and defensive weapon. I was always taught the jab comes from the shoulder like a snake striking. If you want it to be heavy, you step into it with the back foot. I typically try to throw it as a quick, snapping punch hoping it either stuns or causes my opponent to cover up. Also, I use to it setup combos, and for feints. However, lately I've been working with a new trainer, and he has me doing something different. He has me winding my lead shoulder back, pushing off with the back foot,throwing the jab with the punch landing one second behind my lead foot landing on the ground. Its a stepping punch and feels awkward. I'm still working on the footwork. I've practiced a 1+2+step+2, which feels good, but I've never done this combo. We are calling it "the mummy" 1. Lead with the jab as I mentioned above (wind it up and step into it). When it lands, your feet are spread an unusual distance apart (more than shoulder width). 2. Next, pull the back foot up so that your feet are next to each other (which I was taught never to do by previous coaches) 3. Wind up a second jab, step into that one just like the first 4. Follow the second jab with a big, shoulder twisting, straight right hand. Basically a 1+1+2, but with some stepping. We call it "the mummy" because you step forward with the lead foot and drag the back foot, then step forward with the lead foot, etc.. and you look like a mummy from the old movies. Anyone ever been instructed to throw that winding/stepping jab? How about the "don't put your feet together" rule? I've seen that its bad for balance, personally...but the coach says shut up and do it, so I'm doing it. :bbb Anyway, I'm working on it. Always good to learn something new, and we just started training together, so I'm trying to be a sponge. :good Curious what others have experienced. Here is a video of our first training session together, complete with demoralizing commentary from my daughter. Enjoy! [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2suh5o719w[/ame]
I've watched about 20 seconds of your video so far. Do not wind your shoulder back like that. You're putting too much on the jab and it is telegraphed to hell. You keep doing that, in a competitive fight, by the time you've thrown about 3 or 4 jabs, your opponent is going to see it coming everytime, time you and clock you up top with a big counter right hand. Also, you are way too square on. I'd hazard a guess and say you are being moved on way too fast. Get your stance sorted first. Your footwork is a mess man, seriously. I don't mean that to be hard on you, it's a tip. You have no lead foot to speak of because you are far too square on.
Thx for the feed back. I agree with what you are saying, and its a mess. Read my entire post above and you will know why. What the coach is telling me is to use that horrible jab, lead it up like that and to use that crappy foootwork in this drill. That's why I posted the video, because it feels so wrong and goes against everything I've been taught and am used to.
If he's telling you to jab like that and turn square on and neglect actually having a lead foot and back foot, leave him and find another trainer. Honestly, the guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
You can see my other videos on youtube and see my balance and stance, footwork, etc are different. I'm wondering, since he trains mma guts as well and they have to be weary of a lead leg, if that's why?
Could be. You don't want to be to sideways in MMA because you have no hips for the transition to takedown defense that is inevitable for MMA. However, if you want to solely box, go to a boxing guy. In watching this, boxing for MMA doesn't look like this either. This is just somebody who doesn't know what he is doing. Agree with the other guys. Jump ship whether you are training for MMA or boxing.
I'm on the hunt for a new gym, so I'm checking out all the gyms in town. The guy in the video owns the gym, but there are other trainers there. I'm going tonight to give another trainer a shot and see what they have to offer. Otherwise, off to the next place.
If the guy is using the same footwork and punching technique as he would for MMA you MUST find a new trainer before awful habits are developed. It sounds like you already realize this so just my two cents.
I'm gonna have to agree with literally 100% of what TommyV has said, and with everyone else who says find a new trainer. This guy definitely can end up instilling some bad habits in you.
Read my entire first post. The foot is coming up because I'm off balance because of the steps he's telling me to take. If you could hear us talking in the video, I'm saying "I feel off balance." "The stepping is throwing me off." "Its hard to transfer momentum when your feet aren't in position." He's basically saying "A big guy like you should be knocking me over. WTF is the problem here? 1+2+1+2, BANG BANG BANG BANG. Just like that." My reply is "OK, less talking, more mitts. Put em back up there and I'll keep at it."
I 'd find another trainer. Aside from the fact that he's giving you asinine footwork advice, he does not even seem to know how to hold the pads correctly.
Giving an opinion without knowing the facts doesn't really help, but thanks anyway. :-( Exactly my thoughts. But, I'm still learning and he owns a gym, so I thought maybe he knows more than I do...guess not.
lol look I'm just ****ing with you. but it is about the worst instruction and execution I've seen. but what did you expect, you're standing in a cage.
