The Joe Calzaghe Deception: The Night A Slapper Won.

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  1. ATCer777

    ATCer777 Active Member Full Member

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    Parrot? Hopkins looked as fresh as a daisy after the fight. Where were Calzaghe's clean punches landed? He landed single digits in almost every round if you actually count "punches" and not fairy waving as an offensive tactic.
     
  2. jeffjoiner

    jeffjoiner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This was a cash out fight. Same with Joe vs. Roy. None of the fighters were anywhere close enough to prime to make any solid conclusions.
     
  3. Joe.Boxer

    Joe.Boxer Chinchecker Full Member

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    Fresh as a daisy after the fight? :lol::rofl:patsch He needed a few minutes rest in round 10 cos he couldn't keep up with the pace :lol:.

    Calzaghe landed more clean punches than Hopkins did, in more rounds. You're not the only one, but deal with it or **** off.
     
  4. boxeo#1

    boxeo#1 Boxer-Puncher banned

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    Nard handily outcrafted and beat him.
     
  5. DJAdAmS

    DJAdAmS Ex-Army Middleweight Full Member

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    Dont feed the trolls...........it is just sour grapes. Calzaghe a convincing winner!! They will tell you Holyfield was robbed vs Lewis next to just get a draw!
     
  6. Joe.Boxer

    Joe.Boxer Chinchecker Full Member

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    :rofl "outcrafted". That's a new one.

    If you mean "crafted" as in "skill or ability used for bad purposes; cunning; deceit; guile", such as Hopkins' holding, headbutting and hitting, faking to get a rest...then maybe you have a point. Otherwise it's more baseless nonsensical gibberish.
     
  7. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Believe me I think Calslappy is one of the biggest jokes . . . i mean "greats" . . . lol. but man the more you post about the slapmaster the more his nutrhuggers sing his praises. you are fighting a losing battle son, trust me these guys are relentless and will wear you down. That doesn't mean they are right, only that they are losers who don't have jobs and have nothing better to do.:bbb
     
  8. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    . I understand that Hopkins is an American legend that people want to see as an iconic figure. America love a reformist and Hopkins as a former armed robber turned world champ is just the story that wins Americas hearts but...

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    1. Calzaghe landed more than 100 punches than Hopkins throughout the fight.
    2. Contrary to what people want to believe, Calzaghe also made Hopkins miss more
    3. All round punch percentages, Calzaghe finished ahead of Hopkins
    4. Calzaghe outlanded Hopkins in every round
    5. A Byrd who scored for Hopkins it appears has a history for bad scorecards. Type in Adalaide Byrd in Google and see what comes up for yourself, still here are some little things for you to look at
    a. A Byrd was the only judge out of the 3 scoring judges that had Mack ahead against Cloud
    b. The K Pavlik - A Lopez fight was scored 98-92, 99-91 by the other 2 judges, A Byrd scored it 95-95
    c. A Byrd was one of the judges that had Morales a 4 point loser against Maidana
    d. In the S Aydin vs S Ouali fight, the other 2 judges scored clearly for Aydin. Byrd scored for Ouali
    e. The J Almaraz/C Tyler fight was scored a Maj-Dec all because of one judge, guess which? A Byrd
    f. The A DeMarco/J Reyes fight was a SD. Guess who the odd judge out was? A Byrd.
    g. The R Torres - M Arnaoutis fight was a close fight, a point either way to 2 judges but a wide result scored by Byrd
    h. In the A Pryor Jr/D Stanislavjevic SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd
    i. The W Ferguson/J Lopez SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd

    I think thats enough for you to get the picture with Byrd. Remember the other 2 judges scored clearly for Calzaghe

    6. Calzaghe beat Hopkins in America, at a new weight with 3 American judges and Cortez as ref.
    7. Calzaghe scored the single highest score card against Hopkins ever 116-111.
    8. The 2 judges that scored for Calzaghe agreed on 9 of the rounds
    9. Calzaghe landed more on Hopkins than anyone ever.




    Now I know there will be a flood of people coming on here noting Hopkins scoring a flash KD in the first round, and I agree that Hopkins did win a few rounds even when he didnt land as often, but people are mad if they think Calzaghe won on workrate, Calzaghe won because he was able to land his left more often than Hopkins could land his right.
    Calzaghe finished the stronger and took away the moments Hopkins likes down the stretch.
    Other thoughts, If Hopkins thought he was winning, do you think he would have been looking for time out and would bother trying to get points deducted off of Calzaghe, of course he wouldnt, Hopkins knew he was losing.

    What I do note is that nobody seems to mind Hopkins lost to Taylor. In the first Hopkins/Taylor fight, Jermaine was badly hurt and Hopkins looked the stronger at the end, yet it seems to upset alot of these people that Calzaghe beat Hopkins. Appears very biased.
     
  9. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    Calzaghe won that night and deserved the nod,end of.
     
  10. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe was closer to the end of his career
     
  11. jeffjoiner

    jeffjoiner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bailey, I hope you know me well enough to realize that I would say it was a cash out had Hopkins won that fight.

    I honestly believe the old Joe vs. shells of RJJ and B-Hop fights are the most over-analyzed fights which prove absolutely nothing. Nor would they had the results differed.

    We can disagree on who we think would have won, prime vs prime, but we should be able to agree that these fights didn't give a good accounting of any of the fighters, Joe included.