the jones jr debate.

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  1. teemy

    teemy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Jones seems good at getting knocked out now.
     
  2. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Uh Eubank wanted nothing to do with Roy back then he even admitted that
     
  3. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    No, I'm comparing the circumstances.

    Roy didn't want to fight Nunn and Collins.

    So seeing as though you think he feared Nunn, I was asking you if you think he also feared Collins?
     
  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    You've got some great knowledge about boxing, and I enjoy reading your posts.

    But you let yourself down by these types of comments.

    1. Boxing is a BUSINESS.

    2. Everyone's circumstances were different.

    We know that Eubank didn't want any of the top U.S. guys. He's admitted that on numerous occasions.

    Why fight Nunn for $1.8m, when you can fight Hill for $3m?

    Nunn didn't bring huge money or a title.

    If Roy had swerved him for huge money or a title opportunity, then I'd agree that he feared him.

    But from 97-99, Roy picked up two titles, that included unifying the division, and he made some great money.

    He also received a Rolls Royce as a gift just prior to fighting Hill. He didn't need to fight Nunn.

    Whereas Nunn was past his best, losing to Roch in Germany.
     
  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Eubank and Lamar Parks were more talented than Roy?

    Gerald was a wrecking machine, but he wasn't as talented as Roy. I wouldn't say Reggie was either.

    Nunn and Mike in his prime, yes.
     
  6. atberry

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    No, Nunn, Eubank, McClellan, Parks, Mike and Reggie were far more talented than Collins, Benn, Liles, Michalczewski and Holyfield.
     
  7. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Jones didn't fear Collins at all. Collins just priced himself out.
     
  8. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    Reggie was a bit past his best, but that crisp one two Roy put him down with was one of the most amazing things I have seen in a boxing ring.. Hard for me to say Reggie was ever as talented as Roy.
     
  9. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Watch Round 10 of the Reggie-Steve Collins fight. Reggie is literally a southpaw Roy Jones in there.
     
  10. atberry

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    Love having the last word.
     
  11. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    Prime Reggie could not have defended or avoided that one two Roy landed on him.:deal

    Last word? Didn't you say Roy didn't know how to punch? Show me a video of Eubank, Reggie or Toney that come remotely close to that....

    I say go watch that fight, maybe you have forgotten.:yep:good
     
  12. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    It wasn't a technically correct one-two.
     
  13. atberry

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    Roy wouldn't have the opening to throw that blinding one-two from that position against a prime, much more mobile, faster-off-the-mark Reggie.
     
  14. dgreen

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    RJJ is one of my all-time faves.

    I think going up to heavyweight and then back down was too much on him at that stage of his career.
     
  15. atberry

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