the jones jr debate.

It's a pointless exercise. One of the biggest trolls here.

 

He's penalised for being too dominant.

He didn't have many great 'fan fights' because the majority of his fights weren't competitive.

 

Seriously, what's the point in even trying to have a debate with you?

 

:good

 

Do you really think he would have done?

 

Jacob Hall (Head of the Indiana athletic commisson)
BRC: If my understanding of the facts is correct, Richard Hall also tested positive for anabolic steroids.
JHALL: Yes, and in his interview with Aladdin Freeman he didn't mention that he also tested positive and he was probably ten times over what would be a normal amount and Roy Jones was six times over a normal amount. Richard received a letter dated August 2nd, from the IBF indicating to him that he failed the test. He forgot to mention that in the interview.
http://www.braggingrightscorner.com/sarajhall1.html

The state of Indiana had no law in place to punish them so they referred the results to the sanctioning bodies. The WBA and WBC would ignore the results. The IBF would sit on the results for around 5 months before contacting Roy and asking him to take a steroid test:
http://www.braggingrightscorner.com/saraevidence1a.html
The letter is dated August, 2, 2000 (Jones would of been training for Harding at this point)
Roy Jones would not get back to them. So they had to write him another letter requesting a drug test

Miriam Muhammad (Head of the IBF)
Muhammad: That's correct and there was also another one that Ms. Knight herself asked me to send... She asked me to send them, (the letters), I sent them. Then she herself sent one to ... it was directed to Roy Jones telling him that she hadn't heard from him about the results from Specimen B and that she was directing him to contact this office no later than the close of business on Friday, August 25, 2000.

 

they also call him cheaty mc cheaterson

 

I appreciate what you're saying, and I'm not trying to claim that Ruiz was a great fighter.

But again, Roy was a 34 year old LHW, who'd fought almost 50 fights. He'd never fought anyone as big as Ruiz. Ruiz out weighed Roy by around 25 pounds on fight night, and by around 40 pounds of natural weight. Roy wasn't shop worn, but he was past his peak. A lot of people thought it might have been a bridge too far for him.

The fact that you are unable to answer those two questions, shows why Roy deserves more respect (not by yourself) than what he gets for the win.

No other LHW's wanted to fight Ruiz, and no others have gone up since.

That speaks volumes.

If Ruiz was around today, would today's LHW's have challenged him?

Andre Ward has spoken about possibly fighting a HW one day, but we'll have to see.


The thing with Roy is, lots of people can't appreciate what he's done.

He dominated Ruiz, but it's counts for nothing in many people's eyes, because he didn't fight Lewis.

I've noticed that the same people that don't credit Roy's win over Ruiz, heap praise on Toney for his win over Jirov.

That's because Toney's fight, was a great, exciting, back and forth fight that won fight of the year for 2003.

Roy's fight on the other hand, was deemed boring and easy.

Now if Roy had been dropped, cut, or seriously hurt, etc, and it had've been an exciting back and forth fight, I've no doubts that he'd have gotten much more credit for his win.

Throughout the majority of his career, he wasn't involved in many competitive fights. Which has led people to assume that he has a poor resume and he didn't fight anyone.

He's been penalised for being too dominant.

 

would you like anymore facts ?

 

I've seen it countless times.

How is that relevant to what I've said?

You can't post this information and then say it's A FACT that he was roided against Ruiz.

 

Saying that Roy took steroids throughout his entire career, that included his win over Ruiz, is not a FACT!

 

saying that he didnt isnt either but the fact that he is a drugs cheat is,ya get me ???

 

no answer to that ?

 

Anyone who thinks RJJ wasn't on the juice is hilariously delusional.