The Jones that fought Calzaghe v. the Dawson that fought Tarver - who wins and why?

I think Dawson stops him at some stage, probably late on in the piece.

Jones would most likely outbox him in the earlier rounds, before youth takes over.

Though I wouldn't rule out Jones getting on his bike to hear the last bell.

 

Dawson 10th round TKO

 

Yeah Dawson is pretty sloppy in defence at times and is hardly Oliver McCall........

 

U can not compare those last fights they had because styles makes fights. Anyway, I think Dawson would cream Roy because Roy is not the same fighter any more.

 

Dawson would stop him, sometime in the second half of the contest.

 

Calm down Dec.

There are a shitload of threads to bounce around within this place; you can't expect everyone to give an indepth analysis to every question posed by an OP. Sometimes you have to give a quickfire response if the topic posted isn't of overwhelming importance to you. Like many others I don't live on this site, and sometimes have to give yes or no type answers in some threads that I might otherwise elaborate on if I had the time.

I'll humour you though, because you're a sound enough poster and are abviously suffering with a bad case of piles:

Dawson and Roy are quite comparable, in regards to the speed and power departments (Dawson obviously clawing that back or moving ahead with each passing fight - speed wise in any case). I would say that Roy is a more accurate puncher, but Dawson offsets this with a higher workrate. Dawson looked a lot better defensively against Tarver than he had done in previous fights, and he seemed to take Tarvers punches alright after leaving one too many openings over the first couple of rounds (he may not have the bad chin some say; Tarver is a big hitter and did land flush a couple of times without so much as staggering Dawson). Roy on the other hand, after relying for so long on a reflex defence, is now more open for a punch, now that the reflexes aren't there to the same extent; his punch resistance against a big hitting natural LHW like Dawson is questionable (see what happened in Tarver II and Johnson). I just think that the younger and fresher Dawson lands often enough, and with a harder dig than say Calzaghe did,; after initial success in the first couple of rounds Roy just gets worn down and eventually taken out sometime in the second half of the contest (possibly a mercy stoppage by his corner if it goes past round 10).

Of course this is all theory.

 

Is this some sort of a joke. Dawson would have him out of there in 7 rounds if that.

 

(1) Watch it again; the commentators will even point out the instances for you, just in case you can't spot them yourself. If you get past round 3 and still are none the wiser then rewind and watch again; dont worry, it will come to you eventually.

(2) A bigger hitter than Calzaghe; he definitely has enough to take Jones out with.

(3) Because Jones is washed up, and his chin has been exposed.

(4) Dawson has been down as you say, but Roy has been down and out. I would lean towards Dawson in the punch resistance stakes.

(5) And you have the nerve to accuse me of seeing phantom punches: are we talking about the forearm smash in the first round or the desperate counters off the ropes in the rounds that followed.

(6) No problem. Hope your piles clear up, and that you don't end up being a **** your whole life.:good

 

Dawson takes this by wide decision, if not by TKO. Dawson is a young, active fighter at the top of his game. Jones isn't even the same guy who got KO'd by Johnson and Tarver, two guys that Dawson recently beat. Roy's not fast enough to slip punches anymore, and that laying on the ropes and covering up thing he does these days just gets him beat up against Dawson.

I have great respect for what Roy has accomplished, but I can't see him being competitive with Dawson for more than a couple of rounds.

 

where did the "Dawson has a weak chin" stuff come from, i've only seen him down twice.....who else put him down?, his chin is not a liability it's average at worst.....he took some great shots from johnson and never hit the canvas, the same shots that put Jones ass to sleep

but that aside, the only reason why Tarver didn't get dropped or TKO'd at that, is because he was on survival mode 90% of the fight, covering up and running away...


but the biggest factor that would probabbly lead to Dawsons victory is probabbly the fact that his best punch, which i think is his right hook to the body, he'd be landing it all night against Jones.....and for a shot fighter like him, with no legs or stamina, it would completely deplete Jones' wheels which would lead to a late stoppage


basically this fight is completely one sided......as Bhop said, Jones cant compete with the top fighters of this division, he just cant.......and to think he can after what we've seen of him for the past half decade is utterly ridiculous, in all honesty

yes, Jones still has power and hand speed, but it means absouletly nothing if you can barely use it.....if he was too scared to hit Calzaghe who had his hands down in front of him, who by the way has less then average power

what do you think he'd do with a much bigger fighter like Dawson who can actually bang is letting off shots right in front of him?

also....Roy has a highly suspect chin, i doubt it would take more then one shot to put him to sleep, and with Chads speed, power, and overall boxing ability, he will be eating punches unless he decides to go into survival mode, in which case he'd be taking them to the body instead

so yeah.........i didn't really think anybody needed to explain it, seeing how obvious this was, but there you go