The Jones that fought Calzaghe v. the Dawson that fought Tarver - who wins and why?

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  1. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Wouldn't it be enough for him to be competitive with Dawson for a couple of rounds to tag him with the kind of powershot that Dawson couldn't recover from? Dawson hit Calzaghe with some big shot! Calzaghe has a very good chin! Could Dawson have taken those shots? It's not as if Dawson's defence or chin were better than Calzaghe's. It's not like his distance and footwork were better either. If Jones could land big on Calzaghe, why couldn't he land big on Dawson?:think
     
  2. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dawson by a CLOSE decision.

    Of course if it's the VERY SAME Jones, the forearm might knock Dawson out.
     
  3. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Jones hasn't stopped anyone in like 5 years. He couldn't stop an Anthony Hanshaw that was obliterated by Dirrell, and he couldn't stop C level Prince Badi Ajamu. Roy said he should retire if he couldn't stop a chinny, completely shot Tito who was coming off of a long layoff and who was coming up 10 lbs from his last fight. Not only could Roy not stop him, he lost 4 rounds in the process. Jones' power will not bother Dawson. Dawson is too big and fast for Roy at this point in Roy's career. Roy's reflexes and power just aren't there anymore. He gets outpointed in this one, or possibly stopped.
     
  4. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    If Jones can pull the trigger and land an uppercut as he did against Joe, I wouldn't count against him, but if not, he is getting stopped late or outpointed.
     
  5. Motor City Sam

    Motor City Sam Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But when was the last time Jones landed a shot on someone that they couldn't recover from? Dawson took some good shots from Johnson, who obviously has some power. I think Dawson's chin is fine, not great, but probably good enough to keep him out of trouble with this version of Roy.
     
  6. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I think it's a very likely outcome. I think this fight would be very competitive, if Jones came in the same good shape he came in against Calzaghe, and if Dawson was at his best, as he was against Tarver. Why are you not picking a stoppage either way or a wide Dawson decision, BB? Care to write a short-hand analysis for a Dawson close UD? :good
     
  7. D-MAC

    D-MAC Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    See BigReg's post above.

    BTW your own poll in this, your own personal analysis thread, is working against everything you are coming off with.

    Not many people agree with you. Time to either (a) disappear (b) make a dignified retreat, or (c) troll away regardless of the hole you are digging yourself into.

    There are no definites in this game, but I would say it should be about 95% certain that Dawson would deal with Jones if the two should meet.
     
  8. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    To stop Jones, he'd have to get quite close, plant his feet more and take a few more chances. Jones could certainly take advantage of that. Jones remained a threat against Calzaghe even with one eye gone, even in the last couple of rounds; that's why Calzaghe was unwilling to risk going in for the kill. If Dawson risked it, it could play right into Jones' hands, I think.
     
  9. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    True...but when was the last time Dawson took shots as powerful as Jones was able to land against Calzaghe? I'm not saying Dawson's chin is china, but take the Khan parallel: he always recovered from knockdowns, but as soon as he faced a puncher, he could no longer recover. Johnson hit Dawson with some good shots, but he is no puncher. He breaks you down through accumulation. He is not a great finisher either. Is Jones? No...not anymore, but I think he'd do better against Dawson once he had him hurt, because he is faster and more precise than Johnson.
     
  10. Motor City Sam

    Motor City Sam Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think the shots Dawson took from Johnson were as powerful as the ones Jones hit Calzaghe with, and Johnson is busier these days than Roy. Jones isn't fast enough these days to dart in, land a power shot, and then dart out of harms way. He's going to catch something coming back if he works to get in close enough to land something heavy on Dawson, and I think that works in Chad's favor.
     
  11. DINAMITA

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    Jones is SHOT. He has been shot for years.

    Dawson is NOT. He is an excellent young boxer.

    That's my analysis. Lame thread with an obvious answer. Dawson stoppage.
     
  12. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I think Johnson is definitely busier, but I don't think he punches nearly as hard. Dawson is good at riding out the storm, but he's not good at taking a big punch. I think Jones would have a lower chance of beating him than Johnson did, but a higher chance of stopping him.
     
  13. The Phenom

    The Phenom Pretty Handsome Full Member

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    Dawson by very wide decision.Jones is no better than Tarver at this stage.
     
  14. soxfan57

    soxfan57 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think if the RJJ that CAME TO FIGHT calzaghe (rounds 1-7 before the cut opened) shows, I think RJJ has a legit shot of winning. Very surprised by the disparity.
     
  15. soxfan57

    soxfan57 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Do you think Tarver would be competitive in 1 round with calzaghe? IMO, not 1 round would he even be competitive.

    Roy Jones was competitive in 4 very close rounds w/ calzaghe...That shouldn't be overlooked. Rounds 1-7 of calzaghe jones (pre cut) is an even fight on many scorecards.