The Joshua, Fury & Wilder Triangle: Who beats who?

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  1. Smudge_

    Smudge_ Teak tough Full Member

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    I could see this being one of the triangles where each one beats one and loses to the other. These aren't my bona fide official predictions, but I could see it like this:

    Fury beats Wilder (again)
    Wilder beats Joshua
    Joshua beats Fury

    Obviously with politics and rematch clauses, mandatory obligations etc. it's unlikely that these fights would happen one after the other, but if we could get these 3 fighting each other this would be a great scenario IMO where we could see them fighting each other multiple times with rematches and trilogies and it really could turn into a new golden era for championship heavyweight boxing. That's what I'm hoping for.
     
  2. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i think they can all beat each other but now I'd make Fury the favourite in any of them (I favoured aj before)

    We really need to get at these promoters as no reason we cant see these fights twice a piece.
     
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  3. Scissors

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    I think both beat Wilder comfortably. That weren’t 100% Fury, he’s gona get better.

    In terms of Fury and Joshua I honestly think AJ probably finishes that version of Fury off last night. BUT as I’ve just said he’s only gona get better. Once he’s 100% you’d probably pick Fury to outbox him.
     
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  4. Hankey89

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    Fury has too much boxing skills and stamina for AJ... he will just jab, weave and clinch. AJ will get frustrated and start throwing combos and be knackered by the 6th round.
     
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  5. alpo1

    alpo1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    fury 10%-20% better will have joshua gassed and frustrated.

    current fury had wilder nearly done and gassed during the championship rounds even though he was a 6'7 210 pound twink. imagine how the slower and more muscle laden joshua would end up.

    aj should beat wilder. Wilder is a bit taller and rangier though so if he hits him with bombs I don't think AJ will recover like fury.
     
  6. Smudge_

    Smudge_ Teak tough Full Member

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    I've got nothing but praise for Fury after last night, and he's clearly the best of the three on technical ability. But I could still see Joshua beating him. Fury wouldn't have the same weight and size advantage over Joshua that he did with Wilder. Joshua would be more able to impose himself on Fury more. Joshua might be able to control the ring more force Fury to the ropes where he can get up close on the inside and work the body to try and make it harder for Fury to be on the move for the whole fight. And if Joshua is getting Fury on the ropes, then he has fast hands when he lets them go in combinations. Fury is great at avoiding punches but it won't be so easy when he has nowhere to move to and there's loads of big heavy punches coming at him from somebody he can't just outmuscle to weather the storm. If Fury has to throw back and gets into a shootout with Joshua then it could be night night. I'm not one who thinks Fury is feather fisted, but I don't think he hits as hard as the other two. I'm not saying this how I think Joshua vs Fury would definitely go down but it's one possible way it could unfold IMO. I could also see Fury being even better than last night, and boxing circles round Joshua for 12 rounds in a masterclass. It's a fight where it could be a different outcome if they fought more than once. Same goes for Wilder. It's easy to see how he loses to both but he really does have an equaliser in his fists and he will be in with a chance of beating anybody he fights.
     
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  7. rudeboyrupert

    rudeboyrupert New Member Full Member

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    before the fight i had it as AJ, Fury, then Wilder, now though i have it as Fury, AJ, Wilder as top 3 in order, fury getting up from that last knockdown showed me he could prob eat AJ's biggest bomb just aswell, if not evade it in a fight all together.
    I really underestimated Fury, i knew he had the skills but wasnt sure if the time away would be the key, but he schooled Wilder. Apart from the 2 KD's, Fury didnt look in trouble at all, was in control, Wilder looked like he had run out of ideas early on once he knew blasting him out wasnt going to be easy, shocking decision by the judges but it was to be expected with it being Wilder & WBC, and it being on American soil
    With the build up being as big and at times ridiculous it was a shame that the fight lived up to the hype only for poor judging to rob us fans of a truly great moment for our generation on HW boxing. If Fury didnt do his undertaker impression, that would have been a great finish, fury getting up and taking his victory like it should have been would have been a great finish too, the draw shits on everything and everyone, i think Fury & AJ fight probably goes same way, and probably a shithouse decision too
     
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  8. Gomo

    Gomo Active Member Full Member

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    This pretty much.

    AJ beats them both for me.

    He would smash wilder to bits, i dont even think he would be hard work for AJ, povetkin will have been more difficult.

    Fury will outbox him, but people wrongly assume AJ cant box....he can box very well, albeit in a more traditional hands up style....not too dissimilar to vlad but with youth and power on his side and better combinations.

    He wont let fury off the hook like wilder did twice, he will finish him if he hurts him.
     
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  9. Gomo

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    I think the main difference with AJ and DW for fury is that although he has shown he can get up from a bomb AJ wont give him the same one shot then let him recover before not connecting again for 3 rounds.

    Wilder caught fury clean very few times, i mean properly with either hand. Maybe 6 times in the entire fight he caught him clean. A hell of a lot of power shots missed or fury slipped.

    AJ will hit him cleaner, whilst hes not a boxer on furys level he is leagues above wilder and is an olympic medalist, he can box enough to catch fury and when he does we know how he can finish
     
  10. Northadox

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    Fury beats both AJ and Wilder everyday of the week and twice on a Sunday as he says lol

    Wilder AJ I really dunno. Wilder is just a lunatic and AJ won’t be able to go 12 without being hit

    I think AJ will take and get up from the shots - look at the shot he took off Wlad. But it’s how Wilder hunts you down after a KD where I think AJ will struggle. He can’t move quick enough so he’ll have to fight it out
     
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  11. Hankey89

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    The only reason AJ is an olympic medalist is bent judges
     
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  12. Scissors

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    He still would’ve won a silver to be fair...
     
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  13. Allan

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    You do realise wilder got Olympic bronze.
    Joshua only got gold because of homer judges. Can't wait for the day when fury or wilder smash the the matchroom robot all over Wembley stadium.
     
  14. Hankey89

    Hankey89 Member Full Member

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    No he would have gone out in the first round.
     
  15. moog

    moog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fury just now is a level above Wilder and Joshua, a fully fit Fury is couple of levels up. Joshua would be an easier nights work than Wilder, taylormade for Fury.
     
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