The Joshua, Fury & Wilder Triangle: Who beats who?

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  1. Gomo

    Gomo Active Member Full Member

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    I would love fury to beat AJ i much prefer him but i juts dont think it happens....

    Wilder doesnt have a prayer against AJ, He has a punchers chance of course but he will get outboxed in every round, no AJ doesnt box like fury but he would still box the head off widler, most top 10 guys would, hes so average, take away that right hand and he wouldnt even be top 10
     
  2. GordonGarner65

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    Sadly some of these fights won't happen.
    Fury v AJ certainly won't..
    Can see Fury fighting Pulev
    Could also see Fury retiring and then a further return down the line.
     
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  3. Gomo

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    I have to wonder of the fury wilder rematch will happen...

    I don't see either wanting it.

    Both will feel lucky they didn't lose that fight...wilder was very lucky hegot that 1 Puch to land in round 12 and fury was very lucky he got back up. (Luck is the wrong word but you get the point it so easily could have gone the other way)

    Fury will know he can lose against wilder at any second despite his dominance and wilder knows fury can make him look an absolute novice if he can't get him out of there.

    I see both of them going different routes, I wouldn't be surprised if fury ends up retiring again...
     
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  4. Twentyman

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    Wilder could knock all 3 out.

    Fury could comfortably outbox all 3.

    Joshua could outbox and/or KO Wilder and could knock Fury out.

    Fury is number 1 imo though but it can all change with one big shot.
     
  5. Gomo

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    This in a nutshell, wilder has the k.o fury the boxing and Joshua bit of both.

    They all could fight and beat each other on any given night.

    Personally I give AJ the edge but it's all opinions I accept fury could outpoint him or wilder catch him

    I just hope we do get to see all these fights happen, then we can find out instead of just speculating....

    I think there's loads of great fights in the division, not just these 3 but a handfull of others than could pose them problems.

    The likes of miller, Joyce, Whyte, Ortiz and povetkin are no jokes either...
     
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  6. 305th

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    Rematch I think will all depend on whether either sees a realistic chance of an AJ bout happening anytime soon. That was a hard fight for both an neither will want an L from the next one.

    I reckon both camps will go away, test the water with Hearn and try an get the lucrative Joshua bout before the other. Fury will definitely fancy his chances but I think Eddie is more likely to go for Wilder as an opponent but make him fight a bodyguard in the form of Whyte or Miller first. I would not be at all surprised to see Wilder Joshua next Summer.
     
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  7. Hattonmad

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    Very silly to dismiss Wilder against AJ. Joshua is not that hard to hit and Wilder always finds a big punch. How will AJ cope with Wilder's bombs landing? Does he get up in the 12th round last night? It's not something we see often.

    I give AJ the edge, but Wilder is very alive in that fight!
     
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  8. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    AJ got up v Wlad in the 6th very hard to say how it goes, AJ Fury & Wilder all have their strengths hmmmmm
    If I could only pick one fight next it would be AJ v Wilder,then we might know who's better of the three.
     
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  9. GordonGarner65

    GordonGarner65 Active Member Full Member

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    Yes my sentiments..see previous post before yours....agree
     
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  10. Mitch87

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    AJ beats them both.

    A more interesting triangle would who wins out the three best in the dvision AJ, Usyk and Povetkin?
     
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  11. 305th

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  12. bbjc

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    I say Joshua beats current fury.
    Wilder beats Joshua
    Fury beats wilder.

    I don't think Joshua likes that wilder style at all. Wilder needs to get another ten pounds on himself for it tho. 212 not big enough to endure what Joshua's bringing. 222 will give him every chance. Always thought Joshua would bully wilder easily. After last night I think he has a great chance against Joshua tho. Wilder is what he is. Not a great boxer. But he's sharp....with great length. And willing to throw down. I think he,d catch Joshua.

    Fury needs to get sharper for Joshua. Doesn't have nothing to keep Joshua off....and Joshua puts his punches together better than wilder. Joshua better at stepping inside and fighting on the inside than wilder. He's a bigger stronger man than wilder. Furys stamina will be effected more than against a 212 lb man. People go on about Joshua's stamina. I still feel his stamina only goes when someone pings him. Still say klitchko caught him with a peach of a punch that drained Joshua. And whyte caught him to drain him. Outside of that if you don't dent him his staminas good.
     
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  13. BoxingABC1

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    Fury beats Wilder.
    don't know who wins it, but AJ has a far better chance of beating Fury than i ever thought he was based on saturdays fight, despite Fury schooling Wilder.
    Wilder beats AJ.

    Reason for thinking AJ has a very good chance of beating Fury. AJ, imo, is much better at setting up his attacks, has more weapons in his arsenal, and a better boxing IQ than Wilder. So, despite Fury's insane boxing ability, if Wilder can land on him like that, AJ has a better chance at doing it a lot more than Wilder did.

    In terms of thinking Wilder beats AJ, Wilder's technique may be shocking, but if he can land on someone as evasive Fury and put him down, he can definitely do it to AJ, far easier than he did with Fury. AJ doesn't have the defensive proficiency that Fury does, so will find it harder to evade Wilder's punches.
     
  14. TonyHayers

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    I still think Joshua probably beats both of them.

    Could take out Wilder very early for me. Keep it relatively cautious then just wait for the opening and go for it with the straight right. Adopt the Lewis tactics v Grant and Golota.

    Fury is the interesting one but as much as people say Tyson has decent power I don't think he looked close to really bothering Wilder who was badly rocked by Ortiz and wide open at times. Whilst the Wilder Fury fight was very exciting at times there were still rounds where not much happened; Fury playing the make them miss game without landing that much himself. I reckon Joshua could force himself on a bit more than Wilder could and get some success up close.

    Fury should have enough to beat Wilder if he doesn't get sloppy again. I've never really rated Wilder that much to be honest.
     
  15. kojak

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    I think the same, I'm a big fan of Fury but I think AJ is the most likely to beat Fury out of the others.

    Also think Wilder is more likely to beat AJ, because AJ doesn't hold a shot that well and Wilder would land at some point.