The KEY for Peter in the fight is ESTABLISHING his JAB against KLITSCHKO

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  1. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    He doesn't even necessarily have to land the jab, he just has to use it to make Klitschko react.

    We know what Klistchko's gameplan is, he's going to be a relatively stationary target and wait for Peter to come to him where Klitschko can catch him with straight right hands, and if he's smart uppercuts when Peter manages to get inside.

    Peter on the other hand obviously isn't going to outbox Klitschko, so he'll need to bring the fight right to Vitali.

    The fact is that he needs to establish his JAB.

    Considering that Klitschko isn't very mobile, especially due to age, injuries, and his layoff, he'll use mostly upper body movement to avoid Peter's attacks.

    And since Klitschko has a tendency to lean back and away from a jab, this will open up an opportunity for Peter to catch him with a hook where Klitschko's head will be directly in the path of.

    I understand that Peter isn't the most explosive fighter, but because Klitschko will likely be very immobile, it diminishes the need for Peter to be explosive, as long as he can close the distance using a jab or double jab to set up his hook.

    If Peter can land his left hook, he CAN win the fight. If he can't, he'll probably lose.

    It also doesn't hurt that at least in Peter's last fight with Maskaev he utilized more head movement than I've ever seen before, and considering that Klitschko is even slower than Maskaev, it will allow Peter, (at least in the early rounds), to get inside and avoid taking entirely too much punishment.

    With that said, during the first part of the fight is when Klitschko will be most accurate, as he'll have most of his energy and he'll probably use those rounds to try and land those big right hands to KO Peter.

    BUT.....

    If Peter doesn't gas too quickly, his headmovement will allow him to avoid a lot of those punches, close the distance, put work in, and then in the later rounds utilize his jab even more, and catch Klitschko with a hook as Klitschko lazily avoids the jab by moving his head straight back.

    So, don't count Peter out.

    If he can get his jab working, and he has the heart to endure the initial punishment, he CAN beat Klitschko and maybe stop him.

    Peter proved he had the heart of a warrior against the previous Klitschko and McCline, and proved time and time again his capablity to go the full 12 rounds and continuously throw punches.

    Peter can win the fight. Ya'll are putting too much emphasis on SIZE and REACH.

    Really Klitschko needs to anticipate Peter's mobility, and try to catch him clean with uppercuts when Peter gets inside.
     
  2. link2296

    link2296 Boxing Addict banned

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    Nice try...if he tries to establish a jab, Klitschko will come over top of it with his straight right hand...just like the Kirk Johnson fight...man, I hope he listens to you!!
     
  3. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    That's a risk that you have to take.

    Boxing is about risks, and unfortunately when you're the shorter fighter that relies on pressure and inside fighting, you have to risk getting hit with a right hand.

    You got to understand though that landing the right hand over the jab is reactionary and it's not clear whether or not Klitschko still has the reaction and speed to consistantly land it, especially since Peter looked to improve his headmovement.

    Either way, if Peter walks straight in without throwing his jab, he'll be nothing but a walking target, ripe for Klitschko right hands. At least when he throws the jab, he'll force Klitschko to have to react.
     
  4. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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  5. link2296

    link2296 Boxing Addict banned

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    His best chance of winning is to try and catch Vitali cold and overwhelm him early...throwing combinations to the body and working his way up...ala Brewster over Golota.
     
  6. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    I understand that, and I agree, PETER needs to use PRESSURE and VOLUME against Klitschko, but his JAB is the key to getting inside so he can unload his power punches and combinations.

    If Peter just walks in without punching, he's going to take way more punishment than he has to, and he'll likely get stopped.
     
  7. TheGreat

    TheGreat Boxing Junkie banned

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    Wrong Peter has to get inside and work the body early and often, he can't jab with Vitaly as Vitaly can simply step back and fire right hands over the top, but Peter can't recklessly rush in either, he needs to use the jab as a range finder, or a prober to set **** up.
     
  8. link2296

    link2296 Boxing Addict banned

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    Vitali loves for fighters to lunge inside...he tries to bait you in by hanging his left very low...when a fighter tries to come inside, he cracks him with the left hook...watch the kirk johnson and danny williams fights.
     
  9. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    The key for Peter was for Vitali to be hurt in training camp. It didn't happen.
     
  10. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sam Peter CAN'T out-jab Klitschko... NO WAY.... Though, I do see Sam lobbing his jab while trying to wing his right hand.. That is a given... The much taller and more cagey Vitali Klitschko SHOULD see right through all of that and remain outside of Sam's pocket.... Sam will have to FORCE his way in and accept punches in return... Something tells me that Klitschko's straighter shots will connect from the outside and land home on Sam Peter's head... I see Klit by KO over Peter inside 6 or 7 rds...
     
  11. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Man, I'm really getting skeptical whether some of ya'll have ever been in the ring.

    Look, I've been in there myself with taller opponents that were better boxers than I. The way I utilize my own strengths, especially in that particular situation, is with pressure, volume, and throwing the jab.

    When you throw the jab it forces your opponent to react, and if you know everytime he's going to go over the top with a right hand after you throw the jab, you time him, roll under it, and hit him with a left hook.

    Either way, when you don't throw the jab, and you walk right in, it allows your opponent to basically just tee off on you, especially if he times you or predicts your movement, if you move that well at all.

    Throwing the jab is KEY to almost any fight and especially this one given the fact that Klitschko is probably a shell of his former self and has a tendency to lean back and away from a jab.

    How else, will Peter set up his hook?

    Do you think Peter is explosive enough to walk right in throwing hooks?

    You don't think Klitschko will time his BIG ASS and imprint his glove on Peter's head or chest?

    It's about the JAB.
     
  12. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Exactly. Thats what I have been saying all along. Peter Pushes his jab and likes to leave it out there. His arm is extended and he bends at the elbow to throw mulitble jabs. He is prime for the hard right over the top...maybe even a slight side step and a right hook
     
  13. link2296

    link2296 Boxing Addict banned

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    yup...peter is screwed!!
     
  14. viperguy

    viperguy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The olny key that Peters need is the key to the bedroom because it will be goodnight and sweet dream. He will be talking in his sleep,"My belt, my belt, my WBC belt". Lets just hope it's one of those good sleep where you stay up all night and you're so tire that you sleep so well. It would be very horrible if it's one of those sleep where you keep waking up in the middle of the night because your injury from your glass cut on your feet keep hurting.
     
  15. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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