The KEY for Peter in the fight is ESTABLISHING his JAB against KLITSCHKO

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  1. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    That's what I'm talking about.

    Watch Tyson even. Everyone knows Tyson as this great combination power puncher, but Tyson often sets up his attack with the jab when he goes inside.

    Every great pressure fighter uses his jab to get inside.

    It's one of the reasons Hatton failed against Mayweather. Hatton didn't utilize the jab enough, and while it probably wouldn't make a difference either way, it's the reason why Mayweather was able to catch Hatton so much on the way in.
     
  2. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :yep :good
     
  3. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Peter does not even have close to the skill set Tyson had.

    All this crap is wishful thinking. If Peter wants to win he is going to have to make it a dog fight and catch Vitali with a good punch or hope Vitali gasses.
     
  4. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :good
    and trust me Vitali knows that and will be ready
     
  5. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    I understand that Peter isn't half the fighter Tyson is, but you have to factor in that Klitschko is probably a shell of his former self which means that Peter doesn't necessarily have to be Tysonesque.

    What he does need though is proper strategy, and if he makes the mistake of walking right in, or as another poster stated, pushing with his jab and leaving it extended, he's going to take a SEVERE beating.

    I think that Peter isn't as dumb as some of you are suggesting and this will be a more competitive fight than ya'll think.
     
  6. Big N Bad

    Big N Bad Well-Known Member Full Member

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    good article except for the part where you said vitali is EVEn slower than maskaev. just watch his fights against johnson, williams and lewis.

    one thing i dont get, is how different the klitschko's are. you have wlad who is a great fighter, abit robotic, and extremly safety first. he just does the fighting (if you wanna call it that) but he doesnt act or have the body language of a fighter.

    on the other hand i have always noticed vitali to be more of a fighter...a true fighter. he reminds me of calzaghe with his stubborness. its not often you see big guys with this sort of attitude. he seems like the type of guy if you messed with on the street, he would knock you out. do you guys rememba how he almost took lennox's lewis's head of with a kick when lewis went to help him up, and how vitali still wanted to fight after the fight...lol.
    he may be a intelligent guy with a phD but he imo could be quite belligerent and i like him for it. lol. you should of seen him staring at peter during the weigh in (not during the staredown), he wouldnt have minded to get into a scuffle there and then.
    behind the calm demenour, i think vitali klitschko is a bit of a psycho who you dont want to awaken.

    with all that said i would like a brutal KO by samuel peter. this fight has WAAAR WRITTEN ALL OVER IT. vitali can fight, he has a knockout % of 91, he would stand and fight no matter who it is, he isnt the type of fighter to back of, he is also a smart fighter. however it may not favour him against peter. we'll see
    dont miss it!
     
  7. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    If you combined Vitali's heart, chin, and desire to fight with Wladimir's athleticism, sharpness, and punching power, you'd have one hell of heavyweight fighter.
     
  8. the_brigand

    the_brigand I'll Eat Her Later... Full Member

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    when was the last time someone said ... "no man, you don't need to jab in this fight at all"? of course he need to use his jab to get in but it's not the KEY to victory, because then you could go on and say things like "he needs to throw punches with his right hand" as all.
    peter needs to catch Klitschko cold the way he didn't do it to maskaev. if peter gives klitschko 5 rounds to shake the rust he's screwed.
     
  9. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Let me put it this way.

    If Peter doesn't throw the jab, he loses.

    If Peter jabs, he COULD win.
     
  10. link2296

    link2296 Boxing Addict banned

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    We understand what your saying...but, he just cannot work the jab alone...he needs to throw them in combination...if he tries to keep Vitali occupied with the jab alone, Peter will be eating right hands and left hooks all night long!!

    and guaranteed, once he gets hit coming in, he's not going to like it very much...look at the Danny Williams fight. He has a much better chin than Williams, but Vitali has hurt every opponent he's faced.
     
  11. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Peter might have the slowest jab in the sport and he is fighting a much taller man. If he tries to use the jab Vitali will easily counter over it.
     
  12. TheGreat

    TheGreat Boxing Junkie banned

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    I agree he needs proper stategy but he screwed himself by by being a fat ass, Vitaly tired in both lopsided fights he had against Williams and Sanders so you gotta believe if he doesn't get Peter early he will tire, does Peter have to be Tyson to win? of course not but he has to be smart which brings me to this-Peter is dumb, if he were serious he would have shown up in shape for this fight, Vitaly will tire but guess what, it won't matter because Peter will too.
     
  13. Big N Bad

    Big N Bad Well-Known Member Full Member

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    it doesnt matter, height is overrated in fighting. if you dont know how to fight then you will struggle against someone who is taller. but tyson and i can name you more fighters like sam langford and the original joe walcott. these guys knew how to fight, so regardless of the height they got the job done.

    the problem is that vitali uses his height and reach extremly well, we'll see how he reacts when he gets hit with peters sledgehammers.
     
  14. RUSKULL

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    :D :happy :bbb
     
  15. TheGreat

    TheGreat Boxing Junkie banned

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    Why do people compare Peter to Tyson? Seriously Peter is fat out of shape and 1 dimensional, with no where near the athletic abilities, speed, talent, skill and ring smarts of Tyson. Now he might beat Vitaly but trust me he will never beat Wlad.