The key to Mayweather/Hatton

I agree. Not a big fan of either one of them but I think Mayweather will come through...

 

The key will be the criminal judes, referee, commentators, etc.

 

Magee was a club fighter. Hatton is about the only name on his record with a rep outside of the islands.

I understood your analogy, but it was flawed. And it is a cardinal crime to mention Hattons name in the same sentence with La Motta... I also thing comparing PBF to Ray Robinson should be against the law.

Ray Robinson lost to La Motta.... after moving up from 135 pounds to fight at middle to find a champ that would give him a title shot. The raw brawler who beat him was a much larger man. I don't think you'll often find a smaller, weaker man that easily walks through everything a skilled boxer throws to just use physicality to beat him. It's just a bad comparison made by a little Ricky fanboy.

I DO think that Hatton can win, but if the game is just to take punishment to walk down Mayweather, you're looking at a replay of Gatti.

 

You mean the fight that all the Hattonites have been trying to convince Americans doesn't represent his style at all? He had a very friendly ref who led him put Tszyu in an arm bar with one and and hit him with the other all night long.

 

All totally irrelevant because none of it alters the fact that Zoo nailed Hatton on countless occasions only to find the little ****a still in his face and throwing. Zoo is/was a far more thunderous puncher than Floyd is, even at that advanced stage in his career.

Yet again you demonstrate a penchant for the irrelevant. Assessments of Magee’s overall ability aside, one thing that is universally accepted was that he was a big puncher at any level. I don’t have a particularly high opinion of Eamonn Magee either, but that man had single-shot power, only a blithering fool would deny that.

Listen, Jake La Motta is one of my favourite fighters of all time whilst Hatton doesn’t even register with me. The analogy is flawless and your attempts to repel it are week. In physical terms Ray Robinson was easily comparable to La Motta, what he lacked in power he made up for in both height and reach, he had an abundance of both over The Bronx Bull.

Still don’t like the analogy huh? How about a more recent example that may be fresh in your memory. Vernon Forrest vs. Ricardo Mayorga (I & II). Forrest was god’s gift to boxing after beating Sugar Shane (twice), he was the most celebrated fighter of 2002 when he took on a man who showed exactly what a nothing to lose attitude along with a burning desire to win can do.

Conventional wisdom states that Mayorga could not win a decision against the more technically superior Vernon Forrest. Yet that is exactly what he did. You could argue that Mayweather is much better than Forrest and I’d be inclined to agree with you, but I could just as easily argue that Hatton is far great than Mayorga. Need another example? I could go on all day son.

As I stated at the top of this thread, I still favour Mayweather in this one, but completely writing Hatton’s chances off in this fight is folly.

 

Which cards are those, not US tv, not UK tv, not ringside reporters so which legit score cards are you referring to?

 

I know quite a few people who had Zoo up by 1-2 rounds at the time of the TKO, but no, not on the official cards, and we all know that officials never get it wrong.

Zoo's work was cleaner, more economical, his punching more accurate and with greater power, I favoured that personally, but it is a moot point as Hatton won fair and square and rendered the scorecards meaningless regardless of which way you were scoring it at the time.

 

That I do agree with and have the entire time. I think Hatton has as good a chance as anyone to pull off the win. I was just saying that the image that he can't be hurt and can just take punishment isn't really so. He'll need to have his head feints going and be lunging in to grapple Mayweather to nullify his speed. He'll take hits, but if he can get inside fast enough he has a chance.

Trying to just walk him down is going to end in him following him around and getting potshotted untill he's finished.... just like Corrales... just like Gatti. A lot of people say Mayweather doesn't have any power, but it's funny how very few fighters have been able to walk through his punches. He hurt De La Hoya, who has been in with some heavy hitters. Accuracy, timing, and speed does a lot to counteract the lack of physical strength.... I also am questioning whether Hatton is even the stronger man in this fight.

 

Hatton will go into the fight knowing that he will have to take a punch to land a punch. He'll be hoping that he can land 2-3 for every clean shot Floyd puts on him as he comes in.

Floyd will need to be at his very best on the night, because Hatton will attack in exactly the way you describe. He will ensure that Mayweather is outside of the comfort zone, he will make him fight for the full 3 minutes of every round.

I guess my arguement isn't with you but more with the people who make woefully stupid comments like "Hatton doesn't have a hope in hell".

 

Who imposes there will

 

gatti decided it was a good idea to try and box mayweather from a distance, which was about the worst decision he could of made. if he hadn't it probably wouldn't have changed the ultimate outcome, but would of prevented a massacre.

 

How true, Gatti fought the completely wrong fight and Hatton simply won't do that. If Hatton stays on the outside he'l get so much **** off Billy Graham in the corner he'l be gagging to get back out to Mayweather for a break!!

 

Yeh, exactly. The same goes with Corrales, Chico was a warrior but Hatton has a lot more boxing ability than Chico. I dont question Floyd's heart at all, he took some punishment and fought threw broken ribs and a shoulder injury against Castillo.

Hatton does have underrated boxing skills, but he can't compete with Floyd when it comes to boxing ability. Hatton has to apply educated pressure, diving inside unprotected and throwing wild punches is Floyd's bread and butter, he'll pick you apart with ease if you do that. Hatton has some nifty footwork and decent speed, he has to cut of the ring and work Floyd's body. Floyd is an intelligent fighter too, he can't do the same thing over and become predictable otherwise Floyd will work him out and have an easy night.

Hatton will have to provide the performance of his career to win this fight, i think it will be close and a Hatton's pressure will make it entertaining, but i can see Floyd winning on the cards.