I've heard Duodenum say multiple times that if a boxer's already taken the infinitely harder kicks during his time as a kickboxer, than punches are barely going to register. Is this always true? Tex Cobb is probably the most obvious iron chinned ex-kickboxer to box. Matt Skelton is an ex-kickboxer and even past 40 he seems to have a granite chin. Samart Payakaroon was an ex-kickboxer, but his chin wasn't granite. He was stopped twice in a very short career, once by Jeff Fenech.
Depends. Ray Mercer had a granite chin by boxing standards, gets kicked once in the head by Bonjasky in K-1 and quits. However, Ray Sefo had a granite chin by K-1 standards and got brutally KTFO in his boxing debut against a nobody. So it's really anybody's guess as to how that one goes. Most K-1 guys are quite inconsistent due to their chins, or at least the fact that they're constantly facing top competition, and there are so many ways to get KO'd. Muay Thai fighters are known for their amazing toughness, but I doubt the majority would last in boxing due to their lacking boxing skills, as the majority of their game is based on the use of their legs.
Mercer's eardrum got all ****ed up when he was kicked. He was well known for quitting at that point in his career as well. He did it against Briggs.
Vitali Klitschko's strong chin (he used to be a kick boxer) is another that supports that theory. However, i think it's bull****. He's saying what, that getting kicking the head makes you less vulenerable to punches? A coincidence and nothing more. As Sweat Pea pointed out, Sefo got annihilated by a journeyman in 20 or so seconds. What's next, anyone who got hit by a truck is going to have an iron chin because punches aren't even registering anymore?
If you're hit with a truck seven times a week it'd probably pay off when you're being beaten on in the boxing ring. The neck becomes stronger due to repeated punches. Learns to absorb shock, and so on. Who's to say it doesn't do so to a higher degree when you're being kicked, which are far harder than punches?
You think so? Why is it then, that the more punishment a fighter takes, the less resistant he seems to be as his career goes on? A guy like Mayorga was known for his granite chin, but after Tito was done with him, it was never the same again. This often happens to fighters, so I'd actually say it's the exact opposite. The more punishment you take, the less capable you are of taking it as the years go on.
Theare extremely tough fighters with less than granite chins who are able to defy the odds in those cases from time to time, but overall, chins are pretty much born, not made. Unlike legs, abs, etc.
I think so to some degree. There's taking damage you can adapt to, like sparring. The beatings Trinidad gave to Vargas, or Mayorga? Most never recover from those. Mayorga's also getting older, so take that into consideration.
I rememeber Sefo. He was built like an in shape David Tua, except Sefo had some skill to him. The hype around Sefo was about to take off...then he got hit and crumbled. Was Sefo a durable fighter as a kick boxer? Perhaps his durability was never tested as a kick boxer. I do think kick boxing is more brutal and tougher than boxing, however the matches in kick boxing are much shorter.