The Klitschko legacy

I wouldn't be surprised if one of them at some point lost via DQ, cuts, or injury on the stool. It may be fanhood and hope, but I don't think they will ever be beaten in the ring. Wouldn't be completely "pull my hair out" shocked if it happened, though.

 

Don't see much legacy for Vitaly.....Heck, David Haye with 2 fights (victories over Valuev and Ruiz) managed to achieve more at heavyweight than Vitaly during his 40 fights there....

 

Seeing how bad the competition is outside of Haye, who I think they hold the advantage over, I don't see them getting beat by anybody other than Dave who I would make a clear outsider.

 

Alt or troll combination of both maybe :think

 

They don't have much of a legacy as it stands. Vitali is too old to ever be considered a top 20 heavyweight and Wlad is too flawed.

Wlad may be lucky though, in that the opposition is so bad, he can keep up a good streak for the next few years. If he makes it to 65 or 70 wins without another loss, you could then say he's got a good record, regardless of his opposition. However, he really could do with a few top fighters to prove his ability against because, no matter how good his record currently is, people will always follow any praise with "...but". That "but" is the three losses to terrible opponents, getting knocked down many times against Peter and so on. That's a massive stain on his legacy and unless he beats hard hitting, good opponents, there will still be questions.

As for Vitali, I don't think there's much hope. He has a truly awful record for a heavyweight who has been at the world stage for 12 years now. People can say it's a weak era, and it is, but if he had a guy like Valuev on his record, it would be, by far, his best win. He's fought awful opponents, without question. I don't think he's currently good enough to build a respectable resume, either. He's slowing down fast and he'll eventually be beaten unless he retires after only facing non-opponents like Sosnowski or Briggs.

I don't think history will look favourably on either. There are comparisons between Wlad and Lewis but the difference is, after being stopped, Lewis went on to beat really good opponents and proved he didn't have a glass chin. Wlad hasn't done that and probably never will. If he fights safety first until he retires, it'll hurt his legacy. He needs to win a brawl against a hard hitting opponent, but that's unlikely. I don't think Vitali will come close to his brothers ATG ranking either, mainly because of his huge technical flaws, awkward style and pathetic resume.

 

they are and will be atg.

 

atg for both but unfortunately they dominated a very weak period in the HW division

 

Of course they will have a great legacy being the most dominant fighters of their era. Their history will depend on who writes it as it has always been. None of the past greats were perfect. They are judged by the impact they made in their era.

 

Vitali is only guy to KO Vaughn Bean. Not saying he is great but, is a guy who went the distance losing by MD to Micheal Moorer and Holyfield in title fights.
Also the same for a KO against Larry Donald, who fought Valuev , T.Thompson, Povetkin, Kirk Johnson, and last but not least Riddick Bowe. All which were close on the cards except for the Povetkin fight which was his last.

Vitali KO out Herbie Hide(Champion) earlier then Bowe. And I understand earlier is a useless stat and end result is all that matters.
Beat Sander who was a champion from his win over Wlad.
Peter was Champion also when they fought. And after 4 years retirement.

And the remark about his "huge technical flaws and awkward style" is ludicrous. He manhandles opponents like no one else they have faced has done. Guess that **** works pretty fine. Might not be pretty to look at for Klitschko haters but It's extremely effective.

Combine that with some top ranked challengers and up and comers as mandatory's and voluntary's. It's not that bad. And if he didn't fight these young guys, who would you want him to face. Holyfield, Toney??. Com'on And please don't say Haye that **** was agreed upon until the easy rout of Valuev popped it's head up. He also hasn't ducked anybody or complained about the money he was receiving. With 2 weeks notice he jumped at the shot to fight Lewis.

And Wlad did win a brawl against Peter. I mean you did mention the three knockdowns he suffered as a negative, and as if it was a close fight the rest of the rounds. What else would you call a brawl, unless your willing to say those knockdowns were result of rabbit punches now. Should he change his style and just exchange and take more punishment to appease you and become a ATG in your eyes. Or continue winning for what works best for him.
****, people act as if getting a lose or knocked down is unheard of in the heavyweights or for this matter for any Heavyweight great.

These aren't the light weights, and these guys aren't 115lbs Latin Americans throwing like chickens with their heads cut off.( No disrespect to Latin American boxers , just needed a reference to the style most would like to see the Klitschko's in , and I find those fights extremely entertaining) The guys who do take a lot of punishment at this level in those brawls usually never make it anyway. Where are Brewster and Liakhovich now after that brawl, it was great to watch but both are **** now.

 

What they've done is unprecedented and most likely never be matched. Two brothers dominating historically boxing's most celebrated division for the best part of a decade. That will be their legacy.

 

There're lies, more lies and damn lies, but this takes the cake.
What "best part of the decade"? What the heck are you talking about?
Lennox Lewis dominated first 3 years of the decade, smashing his opponents, culminating in brutalizing Vitaly and bashing his face in. Wladimir, in the meantime, was busy getting beaten down in 3-4 minutes by non-entities, like Sanders.
After Lennox left, Ruiz ruled supreme for another 3-4 years, beating the likes of Rahman ( Vitaly was so terrified of The Rock, he literally retired, rather to step in the ring with him) and Johnson (after Ruiz dismantled and outclassed Kirk, Vitaly was too happy to feast on Ruiz' leftovers ).
What was Wladimir doing during that time? He was bounced from pillar to post by the likes of Lamon Brewster.
Then Haye came to the scene and in two fights ( beating Ruiz and Valuev) basically took a giant dump on Vitaly's legacy ( imagine Vitaly having the names of Ruiz and Valuev on his resume ).
Please learn to think logically, before making absurd claims in the future.
Thanks.

 

After Lennox retired, Wlad and Vitali were seen quite clearly as the best fighters in the division and went on to smash every contender and top rated fighter that dared challenge them. From 2004/2005 onwards they have been dominant champs. They will fight on a few more years and still don't look like losing anytime soon.

 

Were seen by whom exactly? After Lennox retired, Wlad was too busy being bounced off the canvas like a rag-doll by the likes of Sam Peter, while Vitaly occupied himself running scared (and eventually fleeing out of the sport) from Haseem Rahman. John Ruiz, somehow, didn't claim 11 injuries in a row, and simply got into a ring with The Rock and defeated him. Yet, you're saying, Vitaly was dominating the division, while running from Rahman and faking a retirement? Do you even follow boxing?

 

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