The Klitschko legacy

It's possible but fans and even haters seems to take it as granted which of course is nice but also plain wrong. Loses doesn't always come to better fighters. See Lennox.

I believe that he'll retire after this year. In my understanding he came back to have rematch with Lennox but now the only 'big' fish in the tank left is Haye and that fight is about as close as Lennox.

Let's not forget that he has 6-9 millions other reasons yearly to keep fighting..

That's a way too positive estimate for the length of his career. His prime might last at best for another two or three years and I don't see him as a guy who fights much past prime and makes the same mistakes as so many before him.

Larry Holme's seven year reign and 20 title defenses (second after Louis) is not completely impossible but considering the injuries Wlad's been facing I wouldn't bet on it.

What comes to their legacy only time will tell. Few years after they are gone from boxing the guys who are their worst critics at the moment are probably the same guys who'll keep them as measuring sticks for future champions.

Ten years later even suggesting that someone of that time would beat them will be considered as 'idiot who doesn't know **** about boxing'. That's how it has been and that's how it will be in boxing.

Time golds memories and current champs will always get **** thrown at them. I'm glad that I'm witnessing their reign in a positive note and I don't have to lie to my kids that I was a fan of them.

All the guys here who use majority of their time to pull **** on them will probably be ashamed and silent of their posts in the future or their kids will see them as bitter old men who has screws loose.

Just my opinion.

 

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jab hold boring > klitschko legacy

 

I think (tho I stand to be corrected) that the Johnson fight was an eliminator to face Lewis. Lewis retired after this fight, and the fight between Vitaly and Sanders was for the vacant WBC belt.

Wlad won the IBF in 2006. And has had 10 fights in the following nearly 5 years.

Vitaly retired in '04 until '08. He won the belt back impressively IMO, but since then has had 5 fights. If I'm being charitable, 2 of them may have been against decent opponents.




This is what shits me about the brothers. "They" have dominated the heavyweight scene for a decade apparently.

That's like saying "Holyfield and Lewis dominated the heavyweight scene for 12 years, at least".

It really ****ing annoys me that they have somehow morphed into one superboxer.

 

Sure it does. They beat the best of their era and it all that counts. Everything else is a fantasy while entertaining does not mean sh*t. Lewis fought in the era where we had 45 years old champ and Ring #1 for crying out loud.

 

To answer the question though, any loss will be an upset IMO.

vitaly looks the most vulnerable, I've thought he's been awful lately. And his lean back defence won't work against anyone big enough with strength and balls. It got him nailed repeatedly with right hands against Lewis, and would against someone similar. Thing is, not many around can or will try to do that.


I will say Wlad is very very good, and Vitaly is very tough. I think as a boxer, Wlad is miles ahead of Vitaly. Vitaly is very tough though, and has made the absolute most of what he's got.

 

It's the truth though. They also rematch each others conquerers and it is seen as revenge. Their legacy will be one and the same. They are the Klit bros, and you can't seperate one from the other when mentioning them.

Like it or not, since 2004 the Klits been seen as the best heavyweights and they have been dominating. Regardless of however weak you consider the division, that is also the truth.

 

Ruiz apparently came much better fighter after losing to Haye.

2003, in his fight against Roy Jones Jr, HBO's commentary team was laughing at Ruiz and openly called him as a paper champion. Foreman tried to keep up the appearance and reminded that their job was to promote the event but that only got Jim and Larry to ridicule some more for Ruiz's belt. "George, we never said that this is a real championship fight".

Pick any year of Ruiz's career and you'll see at least four guys ahead of him.

And by the way; why the alt? What are you scared?

 

What it also comes down to, is there haven't been any other dominate heavyweights this decade other then themselves and you could say Lewis.
Here's Lewis record for 2000's

V.Klit W 2003
Tyson W 2002
Rahman W 2001
Rahman L 2001
Tua W 2000
Botha W 2000
Grant W 2000

And Tyson said he wasn't even close to being in fight shape or mind, mainly in it for the money, he also went on to lose to Danny Williams and Kevin Mcbride very shortly after. Nothing impressive there besides a top name from 80's and early 90's. So a behind the cards TKO cut victory over Vitali, 1-1 vs. Rahman and the others who have achieved nothing else in their careers. And the Klitschko's haven't ruled this decade. Who has then???

 

Incomplete.. Jab, hold, KO..... Very different. Also Vitali doesn't hold. Please don't bunch and compare their styles to one another, when they're anything but the opposite from each other. With the exception of the dominance of their opponent.

Maybe you want to start watching WWE, where 250lbs guys can hit each other for 20 minutes with out getting KO.

 

These brothers are both health nuts an gym rats, they will be in great shape when there fifty, niether has lost more then a couple rounds combined in the past 5 years, i think it is reasonable to believe they could go undefeated for the rest of there boxing matches, be it 4 to 8 year.

To me that is one way both can no question be put into all-time heavyweight top 10 list, i mean both retiring in there 40's with few rounds lost, an several defenses, only people who just have a dislike for them will blow that record off.

 

95% of the people who have a problem with the Klits are British.

Gee, I wonder why? :roll:

 

Haye Vs. Harrison was such an accomplishment for UK fans. Haye ran from Valouev, did not throw punches and lost, Jim Watt, former world champion said that Haye could not win the fight unless he threw punches, but Haye's judges gave him a gift. Holyfield did much better than Haye, at least Holyfield fought Valouev and Chagaev actually beat Valouev, Haye did not. Klitschkos are the best heavyweights living today.

 

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as dominating as both have been,if haye v both klitschko can get signed,i see him beating both,unless he doesnt train proper,goes in injured,gets sloppy and lazy with not following an effective gameplan.

i think he straight out KO/TKOs Wlad.

i think he causes vitali to get stopped/retire on his stool mid to late rounds.vitali is older,his body will break down,he will get cut up again,he will prob tire out easy and quit,or get stopped by the dr/cornerman.

neither brother has faced a man with such speed and power combined who is aggressive off the back foot.

 

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