They have to face each other for one of them to be considered great, IMHO. Or else they are simply not dominant. This is self explanatory. They are fine athletes though, and good role models.
Thats a bit harsh I know Vitali is getting old but he is not pathetic yet. Wlad didn`t do himself any favours fighting Mormeck but I agree if he carries on fighting guys like Mormeck he will be considered pathetic and a bully.
The sisters are no more 'successful' than many other fighters and that's even if you consider them as one entity. Seperately they're nothing special, other fighters don't have tag team partners to prop up their careers.
White people who loathe black culture amuse the **** out of me. Who rounded up them up or bought them from other Africans and brought them to what would become the US? White people. Who, after freeing them, did everything within their power to keep them on the margins? White people. If one looks at black culture before the late 50s, it is barely distinguishable from white culture of the time. Perhaps the only noteworthy differences are a greater emphasis on family and religion. This was almost a hundred years after the Civil War! Who passed the most sweeping entitlement legislation to ensure blacks remained exactly on the rung of the social ladder that they currentlly occupied? A white Republican. Liberals have since taken the reigns of that horse but make no mistake. Nixon is more responsible for the entitlement culture than Johnson or FDR.
I was on this board ten years ago, when the Klitschko phenomenon had just begun. Now, a full decade later, the wildest dreams of the Klitschko fans have come true. The brothers have proven to be the dominant heavyweights of the past decade, and are knocking on the doorstep of all time greatness. Meanwhile, the worst nightmare of the anti-Klitschko faction has come true as well. The anti-Klitschko types must deal with it. I agree.
The Klitschko's keep winning and are Europeans outside of the Anglosphere. Let's be 100% honest here, that is considered race baiting to a huge proportion of the posters on ESB.
atsch You ****ing blind or something?? "Two successful white ucranian brothers that are both, arguably, in the Top15 heavyweights of all time list. It must irritate a lot of people." "its also hard for eastside users. they cant take the fact that 2 european white guys dominate all american heavyweights. its a killer for the big american ego." "It is only natural not to like them. People in America and the U.K. are brainwashed to hate all White, Christian males who earn their fame and fortune through hard work and dedication while giving back via charitable contribution's." "oh trust me.. if wlad walked down an american road or uk road and got in a face with a big black guy." "i bet you all the british and americans around them would root for and would think the black guy would win in a fight... that's pathetic" "America and England are some of the most white-guilt self-hating white countries in the world, im glad the rest of europe doesn't buy that bull****" Yea, they're not race-baiting at all. :roll: