The Klitschko's v The Heavyweight greats

i pick wlad over any hw in history, nobody has his skills, size and power like he does. i think tyson in his prime would have kod vitali who doesnt have his brother boxing skills.

 

Cant say i agree.

 

The weakness or greatness of an era is an extremely subjective subject and has much to do with media hype. Joe Louis fought only 17 opponents who would be HW's by today's standards. He won the title from a guy with 20 losses at LHW, yet a dominant LHW/CW like Adamek is already deemed unworthy to prove how good the Klitschkos are, before they even fight. Patterson wouldn't be in the HW division today, no chance, too small, too easy to KO, yet he gave ATG Liston his best wins. Ali was troubled by Doug Jones, 188 pounds, and Cooper, 186 pound, neither would give Klitschkos any trouble or even Haye, Adamek, Chambers, Solis.

The fight of the century was hyped to be that, due to the unusual historic events preceding it and Ali's showmanship. Frazier at that point would have been KO'd even by the very green Foreman and probably by numerous HW's throughout histoy, especiall the modern Bowe/Lewis/Klitschko archetype. That version of Ali would have lost two out of three against Norton with fair scoring. These were not the two best HW's of all time, yet the fight is remembered as if they were.

Lennox was underrated for most of his career, because he wasn't a self -promoter, wasn't American. Why do some people still believe Tyson is the GOAT at HW? He never beat a great fighter in their prime, Klitschkos are blamed for that very thing constantly, yet Tyson never did it. He simply was fascinating for his bizarre behavious and thug characteristics. Educated, classy people like Lennox and the Kltischkos are easily dismissed as boring. I personally enjoy the art of effective boxing more than a cannibalistic ****** trying to bite or break arms in the ring. In H2H comparison, the Klitschkos have a good argument against anyone. Not that they would beat everyone, but a good chance to do so can be easily deducted from their ratio of size to skills, athleticism, ring intelligence, mental strength, dedication in training.

 

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How long have you been doing your comedy routine ?

 

Lennox Lewis? apart from that wlad does have physical advantages over a lot of atg heavyweights but this is an apparently weak era so he hasn't had too many hard tests and he does have a suspect chin.

 

I'd pick a prime Lewis over a prime Wlad all day long....!

 

I don't really pick him against many at all.

 

Very good post :thumbsup

 

Your pic says it all!

 

Wlad KO Corbett, Jeffries, Johnson, Schmeling, Baer, Patterson, Charles
Wlad UD Walcott, Liston, Marciano, Holyfield, Frazier

Ali TKO Wlad
Louis KO Wlad
Tyson KO Wlad
Holmes UD Wlad
Foreman KO Wlad
Lewis KO Wlad

 

Frazier and Foreman are so small comapred to todays heavius. frazier like 5'11 and 200, and foreman like 6'3 and 220 in the 70's. not much bigger then chris byrd. and byrd is bigger then frazier. as crazy as it sounds. byrd was 210 and like 6'