The Klitshcko legacy myth - the fanboys theory.......

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Im telling you buddy,
Wlad is gonna eat that ****er for dinner on fight night. I have NEVER heard wlad talk about the other fighter the way he talks about Haye. Wlad is going to punish im... BAD!!!:hey:good

 

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I hope so. The last time i saw Wlad fighting angry was against Ray Austin and in round 2 the left hook ........

I could hear the noice of the punch and the fight was over.

 

I never said that Wlad will be an all time great after he retires. All i said is that a boxers legacy ALWAYS grows after the man retires. In the case of Wlad, it depends on what he does the next few years. If he keeps racking up wins like this and then retires, then i have no doubt that he'll be seen as at least a semi-great, like Patterson or Bowe. However, if he loses to Martin Rogan by first round KO, then things will be different.

It's true. A guy like Ray Mercer, real tough fighter and former army sergeant, was already seen as a limited boxer even before a 42 year old Holmes humiliated him. Damiani was outboxing him rather easily before he landed an uppercut on the tip of his nose that ended the fight. Morrison was landing hellacious flush combinations. He put up great efforts against Lewis and Holyfield, but fell short.

Still, just like you said in the initial post, the man is respected now and rightfully so. Even if he wasn't the complete package, he was still one hell of a fighter. There were definitely some that considered him crap back then, and perhaps still some today, but most of the people think he's a good fighter with an iron chin.


By the way, to come back to Wlad: a lot of people right now see that he's a very good fighter (and i'm not talking about the ******s who think he's greater than Ali, just most of the people posting here), so it's not like he goes from zero to hero if he retires.

First of all, he's already unified two of the titles. Who knows what the future brings? You know damn well how hard it is to unify with the politics, Don King and Sauerland holding both of Valuev's nuts really tight and keep milking their money cow.. plus having to defend against ******ed mandatories like Ray Austin or be stripped.

His resume does not have many big wins on it, but it is certainly not thin. He's ranked in the ring top3 for almost 9 consecutive years now, you'd be hard pressed to fight a boxer who's done that and not dig up a big name.

As for Sanders and Brewster, they are, or better put, were, world class contenders. Only Purrity was a journeyman. But that doesn't mean all of a sudden that he's a **** fighter.

Why don't you try to figure out what fighter lost a lightheavyweight journeyman named Marty Marshall? I'll save you the trouble: it's Sonny Liston, whom everyone considers great. Another one? Want to know who lost to a 37 year old light hitting journeyman by first round knock out? Jack Dempsey. At least Purrity is a legit 220lbs heavyweight.



By the way, did you know that Holmes never unified the titles either, yet everyone considers him great? In fact, he dropped his WBC belt to avoid the rightful mandatory, Greg Page, to fight the great Scott Frank, and for whatever reason he was gifted the IBF belt, which meant as much as the IBO belt today back then... know your history before you judge.

Nope, but they are good wins and he has a lot of them. Wlad is one of those fighters whose resume is quantity over quality. Before you cry murder, i'm not comparing Wlad to Holmes, but take a look at Holmes' resume, and see how many great wins he has? He has a lot of good wins, and that's enough.

 

you were there?
That punch was sooooo loud in the arena.:hey:yep

 

Hoplins is considers, by many, as a boring to, still he is a legend.
Same **** with holmes.

 

thats a great post:yep:yep
Dude how low is your IQ? I can bet that its lower than 100

 

Yeah, you really got me back with that post. Watch the fight and let me know what you think, and take a look at how many punches Brewster took compared to Wlad, and who was left standing when the smoke cleared.:good

 

If Wlad carries on winning he may will get there.

Look at Lennox Lewis's career, whether you like it or not Lewis wasnt revered in any way shape or form, plus his era too was pretty weak looking back. Holyfield was there but apart from that we had a poor version of Tyson, a blown up 168lber in Byrd, a slow one dimensional Tua, Rahman, underachieving Moorer, Michael Grant who when the dust had settled along with the hype he wasnt even top 30 and Johnny Ruiz who Lewis didnt fight and was one of the most deserving fighters.

If we all look back in the crystal ball it wasnt all that rosy, and its only up until 12 months ago that Lewis started getting any sort of praise.

Whether people like it or not there does seem to be some parallells with the careers of Lewis and Wlad.

 

Watch fight again. And look how bad wlad looking after the 1st bell? He was Tired already after first round. Watch Puritty fight? Wlad was throwing something like 40-50 power punches per round and tired only in 11th.

 

You also got to take into consideration the body shots Brewster landed on Wlad early in the fight, so much so Roy Jones made a comment about how well he took those hellacious body shots, that if only his chin was that good and not glass.

You got to remember, Wlad is a big guy at 6'6 250. Big men tire out much easier in the ring, add some body shots, a panic attack in the 3rd round, Wlad's high outpoint of power punches, you might end up with a tired fighter during the middle rounds, and thats exactly what happend that night.

 

He did not lended decent body punch during round 1!!! but wlad was already tired as ****. I never herd a RJJ comments and I wuldn't take them so seriously. His a big guy but why Tompson, who lended alot more body punches, and Calvin didn't have so much of success? BTW in rematch Brewster connected much more shots and was WAY MORE ACCURATE!! the result is known.

 

It sounded like a baseball bat hitting a piece of wood. :deal